<p>"I’d question whether TAMU or ND has a better engineering school for undergraduates. ND has an excellent program and a top overall national ranking (it’s a Top 20 school while TAMU is a second tier school). "</p>
<p>I don’t think I’ve seen a single list that puts ND ahead of TAMU in engineering. Maybe in overall rankings, but not engineering.</p>
<p>If he want to be an engineer, it doesn’t matter one bit how good Mendoza is. It matters how the engineering school is. Notre Dame has a quality department. Texas A&M has a “quality-er” department. I’ve dealt with undergrad engineers from both and have been more impressed with the TAMU ones. Does that have a healthy dose of opinion? Yes. It also has a healthy dose of reality.</p>
<p>He certainly won’t be at some huge disadvantage going to ND if that is what you thought I meant.</p>
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<p>My experience has been the opposite. TAMU graduates are trained too practically and not theoretically enough.</p>
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<p>The overall ranking of a school will determine what type of employers come to campus. A top consulting firm would care about Mendoza’s graduates.</p>
<p>If he wants to do consulting, ok. The overall rank won’t affect what engineering companies come though. Only engineering reputation will.</p>
<p>As for our experience with the schools’ engineers, that could come down to departments. I have dealt primarily with people working in the aerospace industry. I can’t comment on the EE department, for example.</p>
<p>Is that Univ of San Diego?..or UC at San Diego?</p>
<p>Hi. I go to Grove School. I can tell you a lot about it, but mind to tell me about your propspective engineering major?</p>
<p>Grove School is in its raising. While City College is not a major school like MIT (lol…), we are getting a lot of funding in the recent years. We have a few new research instutitons and had a few internationally known scienstists and engineers joining the Grove School.</p>
<p>“Is that Univ of San Diego?..or UC at San Diego?”</p>
<p>Probably Univ of San Diego because it’s a religious school. I thought it was Catholic, but maybe not.</p>
<p>LMAO </p>
<p>This is funny. I just checked Grove City College on Google. I was wondering why he called Grove a christain school this morning. But I was running out of time so didn’t bother to check.</p>
<p>I am sorry. LOL I made a mistake between the Grove School of Engineering @ CCNY and Grove City College.</p>
<p>Hahhaha…</p>
<p>University Of San Diego only offers B.A. Computer Science. I don’t like the idea of B.A. because for two reasons: (1) conventionally it’s B.S. more favorable, and (2) just like how I liked B.E. vs B.S. in computer engineering, B.E. says more about lab than theory. B.A. on the other hand, from what I understand, has more liberal arts element. I believe USD offers B.A because it’s a religious school. Nationally ranking it is @ 110. Very impressive.</p>
<p>From what I read, Grove City is very conservative, politically influential as well. </p>
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<p>In my opinion none of them will offer any good engineering education compare to which ever school you are offered to go to.</p>
<p>I am a Catholic myself but I will not choose a Catholic school because it restricts thinking domain. Second of all, if you are really pious about your religion, you don’t need to attend a Catholic school at all, because God shall be worship inside of you.</p>
<p>Also, you have to live. A good engineering education such as Cornell, MIT, and UCB offers three things: (1) good education prepares you well for your prospective career, (2) research opportunities , and (3) an open-mind environment will allow you to become more knowledgeable, more thoughtful and more insightful. </p>
<p>If I were you, I would not choose any of them. If you are accepted to a very good engineering school, go for it. </p>
<p>If you just want to attend a Christian school because you feel like you are responsible, and this is the only way to become a better Christian, then you don’t have faith in your religion.</p>
<p>While I am pursing my computer engineering, mathematics and physics majors, I consistently wondering and questioning about nature, science and humanity. When I were in an open-minded conference where everyone gather to give opinion about political, social and economic discussions, I learned a lot about other people’s thoughts. I could relate so many of my bible studies to their opinions, and eventually develop new thoughts, new perspective, and new philosophies. And I still love my Lord.</p>
<p>Don’t give up your education there. Reading Bible everyday does not make you a good Christian. When Jesus asks us to spread his words, he meant to spread his works and words through action, through living, and through understanding self, nature and others.</p>
<p>I hope you will make the decision that you enjoy.</p>
<p>^good points, I definitely see now why going to a christian school would be a bad thing. If I want a christian community, I’m sure there are churches around every college and student organizations that can provide that instead of being shut in a christian college without any exposure to the rest of the world.</p>
<p>As for engineering, I just want to be an engineer. I’m not really interested in doing consulting. Notre Dame doesn’t seem like a good fit for me.</p>
<p>How does Notre Dame “restrict” the “thinking domain”?</p>
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<p>The vast majority of people that attend religious schools do not do it to be “better” Christians. There are a variety of reasons, but the most common have to do with the environment (religious schools have different policies and rules - keg parties usually aren’t as easy to find at religious schools) or the availability of theology courses. That said, ND is less strict with the policies and rules than the vast majority of other religious-affiliated schools.</p>
<p>Except for the part where at ND, having sex is an offense punishable with expulsion.</p>
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Unlike TAMU where the opposite is true.</p>
<p>Wait, what? That doesn’t really make sense.</p>
<p>It was a joke.
At TAMU NOT having sex is an offense punishable with expulsion.</p>
<p>I just had trouble reading into whethe. Or not there was any intended sarcasm. Haha. Oops.</p>
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<p>And in New York, adultery is a crime and in Georgia homosexual sex is a crime. The ND policy is that sex should not occur before marriage. You know who that was added to appease. But is it an enforceable rule? First of all, the policy (“the University believes that sexual union should only occur in marriage”) is not entirely clear and the regulations against violating the policy are vague. Along with the drug policy, it appears ND likes to give itself a wide birth with respect to punish (from nothing to expulsion) so that each case can be judged individually. </p>
<p>Beyond being vague, how are they going to convict people? Only in cases of forced and/or public acts. So you could see a case where a student is convicted of rape off campus and this charge is used to expel him or her or where a professor has an inappropriate relationship with a student but doesn’t violate any other school policies and the charge is used to fire him or her. </p>
<p>A quick google search didn’t find anyone complaining about being expelled or even punished over this issue. They just complain that they can’t have someone of the opposite sex in their dorm overnight (past 2am). However, many colleges have that policy - even public schools. Some dorms at Georgia Tech practice that rule.</p>
<p>On the other side, the Catholic Church openly and vehemently opposes homosexuality. However, the school sponsors homosexual organizations, has policies against discrimination for sexual orientation, and has an entire section of the student life handbook (the one you references with regards to punishment for sex outside of marriage) addressing resources and rights of homosexuals.</p>
<p>All I can say is that I know a Notre Dame student whose roommate was expelled when caught having plain, vanilla, consensual sex in a dorm room. That is it. I certainly don’t think it is common that they enforce it, but I know for a fact that they do sometimes enforce it, and that is already too much if you ask me. Even the possibility of that is quite ridiculous.</p>
<p>If someone wants to abstain until marriage, they as great for them. I would even go as far as saying that I personally think that is a good idea. However, I don’t agree with infringing on an adult’s rights by saying they aren’t allowed to have sex with no other reason besides the fact that (by your own statistics) no more than half of the student body practices a religion that frowns upon it.</p>
<p>“If you just want to attend a Christian school because you feel like you are responsible, and this is the only way to become a better Christian, then you don’t have faith in your religion.” - jwxie</p>
<p>Woah dude that is actually kind of deep, it makes me feel pretty good now about the school where I’m headed. I guess one’s environment doesn’t really matter if you actually believe and aren’t insecure abvout peer pressure or whatever.</p>
<p>I have a friend who attended a Christian college, and was very upset that her roommate would bring her boyfriend to their dorm and fool around while she was trying to sleep 6 feet away.</p>
<p>She told me that was one of the reasons she went to Christian college - she was hoping to NOT have to deal with that sort of thing.</p>
<p>So perhaps it is more rare in a Christian school, but it certainly still happens.</p>
<p>That being said, the engineering programs on the OP’s initial list are ABET accredited. I would suggest he visit the schools and specifically the engineering programs, and determine if the fit is good. Also check and see if there is any sort of internship program.</p>
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<p>I never said it didn’t still happen. I merely said it was a punishable offense. I find that ridiculous.</p>
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<p>There isn’t a person in the world except for voyeurs who would not be upset at that.</p>