What does it take to get in OOS?

<p>Hi, i realize that it is significantly more difficult to get accepted into W&M from anywhere but Virginia. I am not able to find any average stats or whatnot for OOS accepted students. So, what does it take to get in OOS? What kind of SAT scores? rank? GPA? AP's? etc..</p>

<p>any input or anyone who has gotten in out of state and willing to post stats would be nice!</p>

<p>also, do OOS students at W&M feel out of place surrounded by mostly Virginians?? (especially if your from new england)</p>

<p>You definitely won’t feel out of place.</p>

<p>you will probably “need”

  • 1300+
  • top 10%
  • “toughest schedule available”</p>

<p>there are probably some out of state students that don’t meet the above guidelines, but I bet they are in the minority (in state students who don’t meet those guidelines are also in the minority).</p>

<p>Most importantly, IMO, is that you need to be “more than numbers”. You need to be passionate about something, and have that passion come through on your application.</p>

<p>i don’t think you will feel out of place. I don’t know how much experience / knowledge you have about Virginia, but 1/3 of the campus is from “northern virginia” which is DC suburbs, and much closer to the high tempo life of the northeast than what people typically think of when they think “Virginia”</p>

<p>And, to continue the thought, most in Northern Virginia are from elsewhere else, (at least, the parents of the college-age kids are from elsewhere.) From every state in the Union, and every country on the planet - maybe the hardest thing to find is a native-born Virginian (older than, say, 25.) Go to a store or a mall around here, it’s not even remarkable to hear 5 or more languages being spoken. Sometimes, I’ve even heard “Yankee” being spoken … :)</p>

<p>(I have to say, I kind of shudder at the notion of being “a suburb of DC”.) </p>

<p>W&M students are notably accepting of others, and I think if you have that attitude, it’s all good, its pretty much come as you are. </p>

<p>Unless, of course, you’re a Red Sox fan, then all bets are off … :wink: (j/k)</p>

<p>In NOVA there are barely any Natives left. And in Virginia a lot of people think we all live on farms and speak southern and are hard core conservatives. Non of that is true. There are many progressive and liberal thinking people. Most people have a northeastern accent and where I live(suburb of Richmond) most people have a new york accent. If you go to some remote towns you will find some draws though. </p>

<p>And W&M kids are very open and do not deny others for differences.</p>

<p>Are OOS students constantly reminded that they are OOS? When I come to campus in the fall from TN, I will know absolutely nobody. Is this also the case for the Virginians or will they all know at least one other person from their high school?</p>

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Only in the sense that you have different experiences to share. I could probably find my way around the Boston Metropolitan Area from all the stories a Massachusetts friends has told!</p>

<p>For me, I knew 7 students from my high school going, plus a few others from other years and other places. I thought I would see and talk and hang out with them a lot, but I never really did. Freshmen/Transfer Halls and extra curricular groups are where most of your new friends will come from, and people rarely know one another there. So no matter where you come from, the social scene will basically be created from scratch when you arrive.</p>

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<p>Lots of virginians have multiple students from their schools. That doesn’t mean they only associate with themselves though. When you meet new people, especially in the first few weeks, you will probably say “I’m from Tennessee” a lot. After that, not so much.</p>

<p>so you pretty much need…</p>

<p>you will probably “need”

  • 1300+
  • top 10%
  • “toughest schedule available”</p>

<p>??</p>

<p>Yeah? I’m not sure what you’re asking, but soccerguy is about right.</p>

<p>and you need to be something more than numbers.</p>

<p>You will not feel out of place since about a third of the students are oos.</p>

<p>OOS is selective at W&M (25-28% admit rate compared to 33% admit rate overall). W&M doesn’t have an average GPA but 80% of those admitted graduate in the top 10% of their high school class (so clearly they have really strong grades). The middle 50% for the SAT is 1360-1430 (30-32 on ACT). The subjective side of an applicant is also very important so extracurriculars, recs, essays, interviews, etc play a large role</p>

<p>OP, are you male or female? Is it harder for females because so many more apply, and W&M seeks a 50-50 male-female split. My OOS daughter was waitlisted with 2220 SATs, include an 800 CR score, NMF, and well-known high school. She did not take the toughest course load available, and I think that hurt her. Also, we needed financial aid. I agree with previous posters that you need Ivy-level EC or near Ivy level if you are an OOS female.</p>

<p>i’m a male so hopefully that will help</p>

<p>W&M is a great school, but it’s very expensive OOS. I hope you are prepared for that!</p>