<p>hmmm apparently I never posted my list.
1)lack of community. I serve on to e-boards (one being hall council in an upperclassmen dorm). We celebrate when 10 people come to an event. That's a success.
2)red tape. especially if you are in tisch and trying to take classes in CAS. why can't they make sight & sound run from 9:30-6:30.
3) tisch specific again: students are too self-absorbed to come to go other people's shoots and crew, even if they are required by the class. and the teacher's don't do anything about it. they really don't care.
4) no one understands college costs.period.
5 everyone has sex in the city/felicity syndrome.</p>
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<p>Nope, they changed that, at least according to the info on the web: Inter-School</a> Minors</p>
<p>From my email exchange with Ann a few months ago:</p>
<p>Q: Is it possible for CAS students at NYU to minor in studio art?
A: Yes, most of CAS students are eligible , now, for the Studio Art Minor.</p>
<p>mattistotle: thank you for the thoughtful post</p>
<p>GroovyGeek-- according to the Inter-School Minors link that you posted;</p>
<p>"Studio Art Minor offered by the Department of Art and Art Professions at the Steinhardt School of Culture, Education, and Human Development (for Art History or Urban Design and Architecture Studies majors)"</p>
<p>it says its just for Art History or Urban Design majors...</p>
<p>Yes, you are right. I was basing my statements on information from an email exchange with Ann from last summer. I took a closer look at the above link and emailed her back, and she confirmed the bad news --- at some point it was considered to open the minor to most of CAS, but ultimately it was decided that this should not be done. Bummer... but it only reinforces the notion around all the red tape that surrounds the rather artificial separation of schools.</p>
<p>Going back to the original poster's thread - what DON'T you like about NYU? </p>
<p>Remember what one person does not like may actually work for another. Having people share their experiences for that matter, may be a futile exercise as you need to take it with a grain of salt. Many of your experiences will be influenced by your expectation and your own disposition.</p>
<p>I agree with MTgrlsmom on one hand, but on the other, I'm a Tisch sophomore and yet I loved Mattistotle's post and totally agree with the things he's warning about and also the enjoyment of it anyway. There are some universal feelings.</p>
<p>i would NOT listen to any posts submitted by a student's parent. only a student can answer this question.</p>
<p>i'm only a freshmen and already noticed the majority of what mattistotle and elvenqueen10 have mentioned. they hit the nail on the head on all points. </p>
<p>it varies from dorm and school. Goddard is tiny but has a more community feel. hayden just possesses all my disappointments in humanity. (the statement that you get second-hand high in the hallways is true) i live in Third North which is the perfect location for me but all the people on my floors come from rich backgrounds and do not possess any work ethic - so they come to my common room and party with my suitemates until 4am. it's awkward to meet new people even though they are out there in the 1000 student pool. </p>
<p>I'm in GSP and I'm actually pretty happy with it aside from the snide comments from other students. I'm not sitting in a lecture hall with 200 other people while a TA grades my papers. Instead the professor knows my name since there are less than 20 people in all my classes. Surprisingly, it's been one of the most positive experiences of NYU. </p>
<p>there's a high chance you get a hostile reaction if you say that you don't like broadway or drinking. a lot of Tisch students are pertentious and do have a superiority complex. you have to put a lot of effort to maintaining a friendship without a compact campus. after a while i just stayed "friends" with the people I tolerated more than my suitemates. being around rich kids with 5 different credit cards is starting to get really old because they don't understand that I can't spend 50 dollars each week just to go out while I can barely buy groceries. in terms of going out, alot of people might as well have gone to a school in a rural area because they're only concerned with finding a place to buy liquor. the clubbing scene has also been disappointing since its hard to find a GOOD place thats 18+.</p>
<p>the sports/greek scene makes even me feel sorry for them. (i chose NYU because neither was popular) even if a sports team is doing well, no one knows and no one cares. NYU boasts all the clubs they have but they really are inactive because people just do not want to commute to campus to sit in a room and awkwardly stare at each other. because of this they do not meet often but in turn people do not know each other well enough to keep coming back. </p>
<p>i definately agree with the sex in the city syndrome. it's so frustrating to live in one of the most artistic locations I could ever find and listen to my "peers" talk about britney spears or going shopping in midtown. right now i'm more annoyed since we're picking out housing and everyone wants to live closer and closer to midtown to carry out some sort of glamourous NYC dream</p>
<p>sheped, I lived in Third North Freshman year (and commuted for last year & this year) and yeah, it was awkward living with 1000 people and not really knowing them when you saw them in the elevators. One of my suitemates was in GSP and at first, I was like, "Oh, GSP is if you're on the bubble to get into NYU" but the more she told me about it, I was so jealous! I was sitting in my 250 student Conwest class, and she had max 18 people in her classes. She really knew her professors and vice versa, which helps with recommendations and stuff.</p>
<p>Also, I know what you mean saying, "there's a high chance you get a hostile reaction if you say that you don't like broadway or drinking." I was one of those kids that came into college with a few years of drinking under my belt, so I wanted all my new friends to drink with me. However, from drinking cheap vodka like 3 or 4 times a week and eating fast food AT LEAST twice a day, I got some kind of stomach acid problem by the end of the Spring semester, so I stopped drinking and eating crap. Needless to say, all my friends from Freshman year have since told me I'm "less fun" or whatever, because I only go out occasionally and have a beer or two, but I think you'll find throughout college that it's better to have friends you can do things with besides getting trashed, and you'll grow apart very quickly from those who judge you based on your personal choices about drinking & drugs. I know, I sound like a parent, but I've experienced it over the past three years, and it is lame.</p>
<p>JennyD123 - totally agree with you 100%, I thought that mattistotle's post was very valuable and brought up a lot of excellent points. My intention however was to bring to the forefront that it is important to keep things in perspective as not everyone is the same and will experience things differently. </p>
<p>At the same time, I really don't get the kids, who somehow are expecting a "full on campus experience" with a "tight knit community feel" at NYU. It is what it is. I went to NYU myself, and never expected that at all; I met some great people and had the best time of my life. Believe me, you will find peer pressure, annoying and pretentious people everywhere. That's just part of life, and you might as well learn how to deal with it early on. </p>
<p>Again, for some NYU is "it"; for others obviously not, but isn't that the same for all colleges?</p>
<p>MTgrlsmom: What about NYU made you have the time of your life then? What made it the best time of your life? </p>
<p>Personally, feel like a lot of people go because of New York, and I don't want that to be my sole reason. I mean I love Stern, but what about stuff outside location and academics. I am kind of looking for that "tight knit community feel" which is something that I've found in the other schools I'm applying to, but NYU is the one that kind of defies everything. I'm probably going to get barraged with information about why NYU is so great, but I want something substantial.</p>
<p>Sachmoney- </p>
<p>If you want that "tight knit community feel", then don't look at NYU. I was accepted ED, and that's because I love Stern, and I can't wait for it. Like MTgrlsmom says, it is what it is. No school is perfect; everything has its goods and bads. If you prefer more of a community setting, and I'm not saying there's anything wrong with that, then you will forgo a Stern education. Having said that, going to Stern invariably means you are forgoing that community setting. The fact is- Stern is what it is. No one can tell you something- no one will tell you something- that will make Stern and NYU a tight knit community all of a sudden. You have to decide what you are looking from in a college, and then go after that. Sitting around on CC and hoping that people can convince you is not the smart thing to do.</p>
<p>Also, have you considered a school like Villanova/Lehigh? They are also relatively close to NYC, offer great business programs, and have more of a campus/community.</p>
<p>No, I have my list of schools. I'm willing to forgo the community environment in order to go to Stern/NYU. I like Stern A LOT. Academically, it's obviously more worthwhile to me, but I'm just trying to gauge the campus experience. All I have heard is New York City, New York City, New York City. I get that, and as someone who is probably going to be working in business in New York City, I think it's good to get acclimated to the city life. What about the school though? What is the identity of NYU? There has to be more to NYU than just academics and the city.</p>
<p>You know, I honestly wish I could help you with that. I'm going to be a freshman though so I could tell you a year from now. As of now, though, I guess all I can say is that the NYU student, the community, is one of independent individuals who make their own fun, turn NYU in to their own playground, and use the facilities to give NYU their own identity. I don't even know if that makes sense, but it just sounds right in my head!</p>
<p>Yeah, I understand what you're saying.</p>
<p>sachmoney - I came from a very sheltered household, and went to a private high school, where there were a lot of cliques. I never really felt I fit in, because my family was not very wealthy and so I never seemed to wear "the right clothes", or have "the right stuff". </p>
<p>When I came to NYU nothing mattered; I could be myself, pick my own friends. Nobody was watching if I was in "such and such sorority" or belonged to "such and such club" in order to "be somebody". It was at NYU were I learned that I was actually a pretty interesting person, just being me. I met people just like me, who did not wanted to be pressured into being somebody they did not want to be. Those people became "my community".</p>
<p>At NYU you find all sorts of people, artsy, independent, arrogant, wealthy, and the not so well off; because the study body is so large, it would be tough to not find people you can connect with. </p>
<p>I loved having New York City as my backyard, the resources were phenomenal (easy transportation, libraries, museums everywhere, hard to beat doing your homework in Central Park), the internships are within armslength. Every time I would drive across a bridge into the city, I would feel this incredible rush. I really felt that NYU prepared me better for life than any other college I attended (I have multiple degrees from different places, primarily in Europe). If you can keep up with the pace in NYC, it is easy to keep up anywhere.</p>
<p>I think that people who are used to being part of a close knit community in high school may have a tougher time at NYU, because you definitely need to have an independent mindset and be self motivated. You can not rely on an RA or "buddy" taking you by the hand. You also need to be at a point where you are able to focus as being in New York City can easily become a distraction. Some people will call it that you need to "be mature" and "have a sense of responsibility", but you will find that most of your friends think they are and yet, they are actually not ready for being on their own in NYC. </p>
<p>Just some food for thought :), hope this helps!</p>
<p>Thanks for the answer, it's probably the best I've gotten. See the thing for me is that I went to a private high school as well, which had a lot of cliques, but I never let them define me. I do have that desire to be in tight knit community, but I also feel like I'm very independent and "mature." Now, I guess you could say that's just a claim. But being at another college, you are often tempted to go out and go to parties etc. But you learn a lot about yourself in staying in or going to the library and getting prepared to do your work. I feel like I won't be too effected by New York, other than the Yankees fans...grrrrrrrr...anyways, I like the idea of not being defined by the groups that are there, but rather the ability to define myself.</p>
<p>Things I don't like about NYU...</p>
<p>Well, the dorm thing actually isn't so bad for me. I live in Uhall, which is supposed to be the most anti-social freshman dorm there is, but the thing about my floor is that we're actually all really close, and a bunch of us plan to enter the housing lottery for next year together -- so it IS possible to find a sense of community in your dorm. At least, freshman year.</p>
<p>Like others have said, you'll find all sorts of people here. But something I don't think others have touched upon: clubs (as in the school ones). Most of them seem to be really big, and it's hard to distinguish yourself in them. If you want to get involved, there's usually some kind of application/election/other kind of competition you have to go through first. That's been my experience, anyway.</p>
<p>NYC is crazy expensive, of course. There are those who don't understand that not everyone is up to their noses in cash, but a lot (if not the majority) of people tend to go for cheap eats anyway. You just have to look for them.</p>
<p>Um... well, I'm pretty satisfied with NYU life so far... I'm not a big fan of the Stern curve, although it's apparently become less deflating this year. Some of the required classes <em>cough</em>WritingtheEssay<em>cough</em> are annoying, I guess.</p>
<p>just some advice...enjoy your freshmen year. The close dorm community will disappear, and it's really your only chance to make a lot of friends/ have a lot of fun with minimal effort. Granted, don't mess up your grades (classes are really easy, so don't worry about it too much), but the experience really declines after freshmen year...so make the most of it.</p>