<p>As heinous as it looks normally, it looks even worse now.</p>
<p>What happened?</p>
<p>I vandalized it. Oops…?</p>
<p>On a serious note, someone spray-painted something along the lines of “your apathy = our fees” (or something along those lines). You know, typical “protest”-against-fee-increases type stuff.</p>
<p>just how is hiring people to clean stuff like this up going to reduce fees… =___=</p>
<p>honestly, I’d more willing to pay a higher fee if it means I CAN ACTUALLY GET INTO MY CLASSES… =___=</p>
<p>I find it very amusing that these people are complaining about student apathy and then attempting to address it through a method that to my knowledge has NEVER worked.</p>
<p>'cuz, y’know, an impassioned, eloquent speech to the ASUC identifying a solid and realistic outline of the problem and path to its resolution would be sooooo much less effective.</p>
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This signifies only your lack of knowledge.</p>
<p>Protesters are so irritating.</p>
<p>protest against protesters by no protesting</p>
<p>I doth protest to such a claim!</p>
<p>Stupid people. The wall thing was kinda hokey though.</p>
<p>@cavalier - In that case, I’d appreciate it if you could educate me on the history of popular uprisings inspired by well-placed graffiti.</p>
<p>The 95 Theses
The Fifth Modernization by Wei Jingsheng
Banksy’s graffiti</p>
<p>What frustrates me is no discussion of the budget cuts and tuition increases (the UC system has officially changed “educational fees” to “tuition”) can occur because we are busy demeaning protesters. Never mind tuition has increased from 5k in 2001 to 12.4k in 2010. Never mind that classes are being cut, professors put on mandatory furlough and poached by other universities. No, it’s much more important to prove that we are smarter than those other guys–the mob protesting the state’s lack of commitment to higher education.</p>
<p>Are the protesters morons? Who knows? Maybe they are and maybe they aren’t, but this isn’t the question you should be asking.</p>
<p>I’ll give you the second on that list. The Reformation was not a popular uprising, and I am entirely unaware of Banksy’s work inspiring anything that could be classified with the same terms.</p>
<p>That said:
What frustrates me is no discussion of the budget cuts and tuition increases (the UC system has officially changed “educational fees” to “tuition”) can occur because we are busy demeaning protesters.</p>
<p>I’ve engaged in several discussions of the issue, both on and off of CC, and have been led to believe that many other critics of the protests do the same. Very few people are legitimately “busy” demeaning the protestors.</p>
<p>I’d also posit that the correct term is “criticize.” The protest in September of last year did not work, and the virtually identical protests staged since then also did not work. The graffiti around campus has also accomplished nothing even remotely tangible. Clearly, some part of the method used thus far is flawed.</p>
<p>Never mind tuition has increased from 5k in 2001 to 12.4k in 2010. Never mind that classes are being cut, professors put on mandatory furlough and poached by other universities.</p>
<p>We’re all very much aware of this, and I’m reasonably sure that most of the student population do not like this - the issue is that a very large number also do not dislike it enough to start contributing towards the efforts to either reverse or at least stop the changes, and that the approach being taken by those who do dislike it enough has not worked.</p>
<p>No, it’s much more important to prove that we are smarter than those other guys–the mob protesting the state’s lack of commitment to higher education.</p>
<p>As noted above, this is not what is going on in this thread - or, from what I can tell, anywhere else on this forum, or on any UC campus - and is an issue that you have manufactured for the sake of making this post. People are not ignoring the issue in favor of bashing the protestors - the people doing the bashing are aware of the issue and disagree with the protestors’ cause and/or methods. The people ignoring the issues don’t care.</p>
<p>Are the protesters morons? Who knows? Maybe they are and maybe they aren’t, but this isn’t the question you should be asking.</p>
<p>Fortunately, it isn’t the question I was asking. The question I am asking is something more to the effect of “Why are the protestors repeatedly trying something that has yet to produce any results instead of trying something new?”</p>
<p>hmm i thought they covered it so the stanfurdians wouldnt draw *****es on the berkeley faces</p>
<p>Where did you get the idea of popular uprising from? The purpose of any form of protest is to cause change, and that could be as simple as making people think.</p>
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Your memory must be nonexistent.
This is you earlier in the thread. Protesters are all incompetent. Of course, you could do much better. But you don’t because it’s far easier to make plans from your armchair than to actually do something.
<a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/university-california-berkeley/1010420-protesting-today-3.html[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/university-california-berkeley/1010420-protesting-today-3.html</a>
The first three pages of that thread are filled with insults and wild speculation about what motivates protesters. Then in the final page I posted to clarify why people are upset and feel the need to protest. The thread died shortly afterward. People are willing demean protesters because all that requires is an emotional response. Discussing what motivates protests requires some research.</p>
<p>The thread died not because of what you wrote, but because typing a response to your argument is about as useful as our protests. Nothing gets done, and time is wasted.</p>
<p>That’s pretty much true for all things said on the Internet, and yet people continue to do it when it suits them.</p>