What is the point of UT's "modified" top10% rule 2011?

<p>a) when someone applies from a cc or from a different college, they are applying as college students with college gpa’s obtained in college level courses, not highschool students with ranks. They are in a completely different application pool and are not bound by the 10% law. </p>

<p>b) The don’t necessarily transfer into less demanding majors. Some, with extremely good grades get into McCombs, Cockrell, or any of the other competitive majors. There are examples of this on CC.</p>

<p>c) they don’t just “take up seats”, they are paying students just like those who were accepted as freshmen.</p>

<p>d) who’s to say if those kids who transferred from ACC or HCC don’t deserve to be at UT. Certainly not I, and certainly not you. Perhaps these kids are the same exact kind as those you deem worthy of the summer program. They just decided CAP wasn’t for them…</p>

<p>Oh, and btw - there is no more summer program anymore. It was discontinued this past year.</p>

<p>I think UT has “room” for a lot of transfers because of the freshman attrition rate. </p>

<p>What I haven’t seen mentioned in the complaints about the 10% rule is that students outside the top 10% are admitted, as are students who graduate without a rank. The young women who sued still had a chance to get into UT, it just wasn’t automatic. I haven’t seen the lawsuit, so I don’t know if they were contending that the non-top 10 admissions procedures are skewed to admit more underrepresented minorities. If I had to guess, I would guess that the non-top 10 admissions are skewed to admit athletes. (Not to say that there aren’t many, many athletes who graduate in the top 10%-- however, all other things being equal, I think UT might give preference to a non-top 10% varsity athlete over a cello player).</p>

<p>Does someone have the statistics for retention of freshmen? I think it’s actually pretty high, but I may be wrong.</p>

<p>USNWR 2009 lists a 93% freshman retention rate. Given the size of the freshman class (is it 9K?) that still leaves room for quite a few transfer students. I have no idea how many transfer in each year, though.</p>

<p>No, not 9000, they have reduced the class size (2008 - UT admission info on website) to 6715, so 7% of that would be 470 students. I’m not sure how many transfer students were admitted, but I’d bet it’s more than 470 students.</p>

<p>I can’t seem to find the numbers on the UT website though.</p>

<p>(maybe the 9000 number you stated was “admitted” not enrolled?? as for seats opening up because of attrition, that would only apply to enrolled students actually taking up the seats ;))</p>

<p>There may be something to the idea that the CC students have already taken many of the intro classes, which are the ones that are in highest demand. </p>

<p>I’m not sure where I got the 9000 number. It could be admitted students or outdated information.</p>

<p>I think that is probably right. They have already taken most, if not all, of the gen ed requirements.</p>

<p>Also, something to think about - transfer students are admitted into the college they are applying to only, there is no chance of being bumped down to libral arts or the new “undeclared” major, so they only admit as many as they can based on open spots for that class. So if you are applying as a junior, there may be 20 spots; but for the same major, if you are applying as a sophomore, there may only be 10. </p>

<p>The numbers will be screwy anyway because transfers are coming in with all different classifications, hours wise.</p>

<p>Am I making sense? I’m really tired :)</p>

<p>I think so… I’m a little tired myself. We’re on the last round of packing and we’re leaving for UT early tomorrow.
I still don’t know how everything will fit into our cars, not to mention the dorm room…<br>
And I’m in serious denial about my first leaving for college : )</p>

<p>Oh!! I remember that!! Bittersweet! Just don’t let him/her see you cry too much! Wait until the drive home - with my first one, who went to UF, I think I cried until close to the Alabama border! With my second, I think the boohooing stopped near Smithville :slight_smile: </p>

<p>I think you’ll find that 1/2 the stuff you buy for the 1st’s dorm room doesn’t get used at all!! :rolleyes: - I remember when I went to help my oldest move from his dorm after freshman year into the house he was renting, he left many of those plastic containers that I bought for a pretty penny at the Container Store on the sidewalk!!! He said he didn’t ever use them and didn’t have room!! I could have killed him!!</p>

<p>Needless to say, my 2nd went with much less cargo, and I told him to buy what he needed as he needed it!! LOL</p>

<p>Have a good time tomorrow - it’s a special day!!</p>

<p>Thanks! I hope I can hold my tears until the drive home. It will be hard : )
I keep telling myself it’s not that far, and he will come home at least occasionally.</p>

<p>Yes, that’s the beauty of having one at UT. My husband and I go up to Austin in the fall for games and in the spring to watch my son play lax, so we see him quite a bit.</p>

<p>It’s a totally different thing to have one go out of state! I went to Gainesville a sum total of 6 times during my son’s 4 years there, and he hardly came home at all. To compound it - he is staying in Florida now!! Met a Florida gal, got engaged and married! - so be glad your Texan is staying in Texas!! :)</p>

<p>Yes, I am very glad. He almost went far away, but in the end, he decided to stay closer. I lobbied hard for an even closer school, but he couldn’t bring himself to stay in town. UT was the perfect distance, close enough to come home, but not too close.</p>