What is up with you guys and leadership positions?

Pre-College Topics High School Life
1

<p>Psh, why try get the role of team captain, president, or anything? Other than looking good for college, why do you guys do it? To help change the team/club? You can do that without being a team captain or president. I've always been the backseat driver type of guy. In fact, I gave up my opportunity to run for team captain of my robotics team and nominated someone else. That someone else got picked. I still do my job. </p>

<p>“A leader is best when people barely know he exists, when his work is done, his aim fulfilled, they will say: we did it ourselves.” -Lao Tzu</p>

2

<p>David, we all know you just wanted to show off that quote… It really is a gem of a quote though, quite true(:</p>

3

<p>People have a tendency to crave power and recognition, being a leader fulfils these needs. End of thread.</p>

4

<p>Why are there so many condescending threads in this forum?</p>

<p>Someone’s got to be captain/president/leader, right?</p>

5

<p>I’ve always been the “leader without a title” type personally. I will lead no matter what and help improve the team/club often, so I think people are really just looking for that recognition for their hard work when they strive for the title.</p>

6

<p>Honestly…I was chosen…sooooooooooooooooooooooooooo…</p>

7

<p>The only place I care about being a leader’s in my Boy Scout troop lol…</p>

8

<p>I’m a loner. I never strive to be a leader in the conventional sense. Sometimes people come up to me and ask me their fortunes, I smoke some Sally D and make up some BS about ‘finding direction.’ </p>

<p>That’s about as much leadership as I do.</p>

9

<p>^Actually, I don’t even do that much.</p>

10

<p>people do it because it looks good.</p>

<p>colleges don’t acknowledge people who don’t take credit. that’s one of the reasons I hate the EC system in America</p>

11

<p>Because the Common App asks for your position in clubs.</p>

12

<p>Because I know I’m perfect and other people aren’t.</p>

13

<p>I’ve always thought about it this way: take away the workers and the company crumbles; take away the CEO, the company can still pump out products.</p>

14

<p>Power and recognition, that is all. It’s a simple equation.</p>

15

<p>Power in what? I mean, I am the head programmer of my robotics club. If I do choose to just not work; the team would be in big trouble. I believe THAT is power. I do have a lot of influence, but I do not have a formal position. I can float around doing anything or everything.</p>

16

<p>“I’ve always thought about it this way: take away the workers and the company crumbles; take away the CEO, the company can still pump out products.”</p>

<p>True, but if you had to take away only one person, it would be one of the workers, not the CEO.</p>

<p>On the other hand, I agree that the “leadership” position titles in high school clubs are nonsense.</p>

17

<p>I have alot of leadership positions because 1. It looks good for college 2. lol I LOVE having power its fun! :)</p>

18

<p>Indeed. There are people who want to lead a club…and then there are people who just want to lead something, anything at all.</p>

<p>These people seem to believe that asking a teacher to proctor the AMC is the same as being “President and Founder of the AMC Club”, and being a member of a tiny, 5-person club can be written as “Co-founder of Club…”. Even if nobody shows up to the Ivy League Club’s first meeting, they’re still the President!</p>

<p>Too many people running for President of the Multicultural Club for them to make it? Well, they could run for Secretary (to handle the nonexistant bureaucratic issues), or Treasurer (to handle the nonexistant flow of money). Still not enough? Then they just create a Jewish Club, or an Asian Club, or a Korean Club if they’re really desperate. As an added bonus, surely all the Ivies will know how diverse they are if they start a Hispanic Club, even more so if they have no ties to Hispanic culture or history whatsoever!</p>

<p>When somebody like that gets in charge of a club, everybody knows it. The club stops doing anything at all save for a few meetings of top leadership. New members leave disillusioned, without any idea what the club was supposed to accomplish. The whole thing typically falls apart once the ‘leader’ leaves for an Ivy League university (as I’ve seen happen twice in my school). A poor experience for all the club’s members, but hey, they can use their time wasted as ‘community service hours’.</p>

<p>Luckily for clubs everywhere, these people are the exception rather than the norm. Still, there are a disturbing amount of them here on CC.</p>

19

<p>There’s one kid in my school who’s president of the school and nearly every club and team, but does it only because he likes doing it. </p>

<p>And people who are captain of academic or sports teams are usually chosen because they are the best, not for their leadership.</p>

20

<p>What are the powers given to a president of a club? Honestly, they can’t fire anyone, give raises, make people work overtime, or anything. They are just there to look pretty. Sure, there are paperwork and stuff to get done, but any old fool can do that.</p>