What isn't good about Stanford?

<p>@Princess’s Dad What does that suppose to mean?</p>

<p>And by the way…Princess’ Dad…I dare you to go to Harvard, Yale, and Princeton forums and write the same thing you did on this forum about the Asian population (since they mirror Stanford’s)…and see what reaction you get…</p>

<p>yeah… Idk what princess’dad is trying to say, and frankly, i don’t want to know. Try saying that to Berkeley, they’ll laugh and boot you. They’ve been at what, 30 or 40 % for a few years, now?</p>

<p>Stanford used to have a population that was similar to the US population. It is not now. We are even more of an minority. Admissions used to try to make the school reflect the US, it does not now</p>

<p>No disrespect to Asians meant</p>

<p>^^you have got to be kidding me?..when was that in the…1950s?..</p>

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The percentage of the undergrad student body that is Asian at various selective colleges is below, as listed in IPEDS. Note that colleges that are known for practicing less AA have a higher percentage of the student body, such as Caltech and Berkeley, while Stanford and HYP have notably lower percentages. ~13% of persons in CA are Asian, which is larger than all states except for Hawaii, and more than 2x the rate across the east coast. Stanford averages ~43% of it’s class from CA, about triple the rate for comparable east coast schools. So I’d expect Stanford to have about a 30% larger percent Asian student body than comparable east coast schools. Instead Stanford falls towards the middle of the pack, lower than MIT and Princeton, but higher than Harvard and Yale. So compared to other selective schools, Stanford seems to be less favorable for Asian apps. This fits with Stanford practicing a slightly greater degree of AA than HYPM, as suggested by degree of admissions boost for URM. </p>

<p>Note that I did not consider differences in major selection. Asian students are probably more likely to select a STEM major than the overall student body, and Stanford has a larger % engineering than many colleges in the list below. While major selection does contribute, Stanford still falls below expected % Asian among colleges with a similar % engineering, when considering differences in home states of the student body.</p>

<p>Caltech – 39%
Berkeley – 37%
MIT – 24%
Emory – 23%
Carnegie Melon – 23%
Duke – 21%
Rice – 20%
Northwestern – 19%
Hopkins – 19%
Princeton – 18%
Penn – 18%
Stanford – 18%
Chicago – 17%
Harvard – 17%
WUSTL – 17%
Columbia – 16%
Cornell – 16%
Yale – 15%
Brown – 14%</p>

<p>data10 - where are these numbers from? </p>

<p>CDS shows almost 19% for Stanford.</p>

<p>[Stanford</a> University: Common Data Set 2012-2013](<a href=“Stanford Common Data Set | University Communications”>Stanford Common Data Set | University Communications)</p>

<p>The numbers above came from IPEDS (a government educational database) for the 2011-2012 year, when considering full-time undergraduate students over the full multi-year class. I am not including part-time, like the CDS does. I used IPEDS’ sort by variable function, with a derived variable. The exact rate for Stanford was 18.25% . The CDS for 2011-12 at <a href=“Stanford Common Data Set | University Communications”>Stanford Common Data Set | University Communications; shows a rate of 18.15%. The 0.1% offset between IPEDS and CDS relates to part-time students. Note that the CDS instructions for Racial/Ethnic enrollment state, “Report as your institution does for IPEDS”, implying that IPEDS data for equivalent categories should be identical.</p>

<p>Data…I wholeheartedly agree with your analysis about Stanford having far fewer Asian Californians than would be expected…since almost every TOP California Asian applicant applies to Stanford…</p>

<p>…having said that…those who do get admitted have to be the best of the best (and/or either extremely lucky)…and they should definitely celebrate their achievement!</p>

<p>Data - I posted the link for 2012-13 which says Stanford has 1328 out of 6999. I don’t see any non-degree seekers listed in it. </p>

<p>The total is 18.97% with a slightly higher percentage of 19.15% in freshman year.</p>

<p>Yes, I saw that you posted 2012-13. 2012-13 isn’t yet in IPEDS for this category. Their latest year is 2011-12, which had a slightly different percentage – 18.25% instead if 18.97%. The racial percentages vary from year to year, sometimes significantly for the entering freshman class, but much less so for the full multi-year class.</p>

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<p>I am actually more curious to know how those 15~18% Asian students do once they are at Stanford.</p>

<p>What is your measuring stick ewho? :)</p>

<p>They are all ducks furiously paddling away. It is hard to not to do well.</p>

<p>I am sure that they would hit As, Bs, Cs or Ds in the paddled water.</p>

<p>Interestingly enough, I am being told on another thread that whether students care about grades or not depends on their SES.</p>

<p>It might be more true to the general than to the Asian.</p>

<p>Seriously
What’s good about Stanford
At Univ X you might have a great teacher teaching a subject - at Stanford the teacher may be a lousy “teacher” but he discovered what the other is teaching. May say “read the book” , but will tell you why he discovered what he did</p>

<p>At Univ X, you may have toga parties, at Stanford you will eat with bright kids in many fields, you will never be able to sit with kids who are bright in many different field ( yet may still have a toga)</p>

<p>At Stanford you have the LSJUMB</p>

<p>Not sure if true, doubt it, but a popular stigma around Stanford is the lack of “attractive women.” I’ve heard the saying more than once, “8 out of 10 girls in California are hot, the other 2 go to Stanford or UCBerkely,” however it is probably thanks to the wrong idea that smart girls can’t be hot.</p>

<p>No
It’s that they don’t do makup routinely
When they do, there are dome very hot ones</p>

<p>I haven’t found the atmosphere to be as competitive as many people are saying. In fact, I feel like students encourage each other in really unique and positive ways, and there is a lot of pressure to be your best, but not necessarily to compare that best to other people. As for those worried about west coast earthquakes, every building save one is earthquake safe, and they’re tearing that one down. And really? It’s not any more dangerous than the south’s hurricanes or the midwest tornadoes. </p>