<p>On these "chance" threads, it seems that every other chance thread asks for chances to Penn. Why do you think that is? Is it because they offer so many programs, like the dual-degree professional programs and nursing? </p>
<p>Nursing is going to attract a very select subset of students. But to answer your question, Penn is a highly regarded school with many great programs. It seems natural that students would be attracted to it.</p>
<p>Penn has a lot to offer students:</p>
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<li><p>Great programs</p></li>
<li><p>Beautiful green campus with excellent facilities</p></li>
<li><p>Amazing Professors </p></li>
<li><p>Great location in Philadelphia and is only a little over an hour from NYC</p></li>
<li><p>An emphasis on balancing great academics with clubs, research, and social development</p></li>
<li><p>Outstanding business, engineering and nursing programs plus many dual-degree program options</p></li>
<li><p>Low Student to Faculty ratio</p></li>
<li><p>Strong alumni network</p></li>
<li><p>The warmest weather of all of the Ivies</p></li>
<li><p>Internship opportunities, and excellent career placement</p></li>
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<p>Agreed with all posted above and would like to mention that if you’re a competitive business or econ student, it’s basically a must to apply because it’s the number one school and has unsurpassed connections. This generates a lot of applicants. Also, a lot of people like to apply to at least one ivy, be it they’re pressured by parents or they just want to see if they can get in, and this is how Penn ends up on a lot of people’s lists. Let’s be realistic, HYP has a reputation of being snooty and pretentious and a lot of people don’t even applying because they know it is an automatic rejection. So that leaves 5 schools. Brown is too hipster, Dartmouth is in the middle of nowhere, Cornell has terrible weather and Columbia’s cost of living is ridiculously high. That leaves Penn. Obviously I’m making assumptions and there are people that like the hipster essence of Brown or don’t mind the weather at Cornell, but this is what goes through a lot of people’s minds. </p>
<p>Simple: Wharton</p>
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<p>It’s A LOT more than just Wharton. Penn also has a phenomenal liberal arts program with lots of top-10 and top-20 liberal arts and interdisciplinary departments and programs, amazing undergraduate research opportunities, the top undergraduate nursing program in the country, a terrific “boutique” engineering program, one of the most vibrant campus social and extracurricular environments of any of the top schools, and unparalleled proximity and access to the central core of a large east coast city and all of the culture, history, and nightlife that it offers.</p>
<p>Yes, Wharton is an amazing program and the top undergraduate business program in, well, the world :), but keep in mind that only 20-25% of Penn’s undergraduate applications are for Wharton. </p>
<p>@"45 Percenter" Remember that Penn’s ranking would drop a lot without Wharton</p>
<p>Because its a lower-end ivy, that ivy-obsessed people think they might have a shot to get into, v HYP.</p>
<p>@whartonhyps “Remember that Penn’s ranking would drop a lot without Wharton” </p>
<p>That is true that Penn’s rating would drop without Wharton, but Penn’s rating would also drop without any one of the four undergraduate colleges. Wharton certainly is a great school, but there are a lot of reasons that people are interested in Penn, and saying it is all about Wharton is simply not true. If your statement were true, then Penn’s rise in applications over the last few years would really be just an increase in applications to Wharton, which it is not.</p>
<p>@GMTplus7 “Because its a lower-end ivy, that ivy-obsessed people think they might have a shot to get into, v HYP.”</p>
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<li>If this were true, then why aren’t applications up just as much at Brown, Columbia, Cornell, and Dartmouth? Why are applications up more at Penn this year than at any other Ivy?</li>
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<p>In reality there are a lot of different reasons potential students prefer Penn, and it really is not possible to simplify it down to one thing. If you don’t believe me, just ask them.</p>
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Not sure which ranking you’re talking about (e.g., US News?), but other than business school rankings, specifically, this is a completely baseless statement. And it utterly overlooks and undervalues so much else of what Penn has to offer, and why it is so popular and highly ranked. As I previously stated, Penn has numerous top-10 and top-20 liberal arts departments–in fact, as many as, if not more than, virtually all of the top schools except HYPS. It also has an amazing array of interdisciplinary programs and research activities and opportunities, a health sciences clinical/research complex second to none, some top “boutique” engineering programs, and many other amazing attributes and assets beyond Wharton that make it the highly regarded and top-ranked school that it is (including its amazing graduate and professional schools, world-renowned museum of archaeology and anthropology, etc., etc.).</p>
<p>A bit of advice: if you’re applying to Penn/Wharton, and are lucky enough to be accepted and attend, consider dropping the attitude that Wharton is the only thing, or even the main thing, that makes Penn top-ranked and eminent. You’ll go much further as a Penn applicant–and ultimately as a Penn student if that’s in your future–if you do. ;)</p>
<p>@WhartonnotHYPS, I really hope you don’t go to Wharton. People with your attitude do not add anything to the campus. Penn has plenty of other programs that compete with Wharton. The medical school and hospital as an entire entity is one of the best in the world. There is a ton of ground breaking research done there. There are also many humanities departments that rank in the top ten. The physics department is also vastly underrated.</p>
<p>@Poeme Relax bud I said something controversial, no need to get worked up over that. I agree Penn as a school is amazing, but all of you would be foolish to say that Wharton doesn’t define it.</p>
<p>@"45 Percenter" Yes US News rankings and others I believe. It does have all these great opportunities. All I’m saying is if you keep saying top-10 and top-20. I’m talking about Wharton, which is ranked #1 Business undergrad, grad, and exec mba by US News. No other school/university has managed to attain that form of recognition. </p>
<p>The fact that Penn is oft mentioned in the “Chance Me” forum is NOTHING to brag about. Ultimately, Penn attracts great students. That Chance Me forum is an echo chamber of 17 year olds… </p>
<p>No @WhartonnotHYPS, Wharton does not define Penn. Period. Like I said, drop the attititude (if you manage to get in).</p>
<p>@Poeme </p>
<p>Quick Question: Did you go to Wharton? </p>
<p>Also are you an ORM? </p>
<p>No, I did not go to Wharton because I have no interest in business at all. I didn’t even take a single class there even though I could have. I don’t feel lesser than anyone because I didn’t attend Wharton because the Wharton students are just another part of the student body. Most of them accept that too. The ones who don’t usually have other issues.</p>
<p>I got a wonderful education in my chosen field. I was accepted to several top 10 PhD programs in my field including Stanford and Harvard. My friends are going the same route. I don’t feel like the Wharton students overshadowed our success at all. We all had great research opportunities at Penn that would be hard to replicate elsewhere and had a great overall academic experience.</p>
<p>Look, I don’t know why you want to go to a school where you seem to be looking down on the majority of the student body. Why not just get an MBA at Wharton? Hopefully, if you do manage to go to Wharton, your experience at Penn will broaden your views.</p>
<p>@Poeme Don’t feed the ■■■■■.</p>
<p>@Poeme </p>
<p>I totally agree with you. As a Wharton student myself, I find that the whole “Wharton” stigma fades really quickly. In fact, 60% of the Wharton curriculum has to be fulfilled at other undergraduate schools. And if you do get accepted, WhartonnotHYPS you’ll find that all the undergraduate schools are equally superb in their own right. </p>
<p>Whartonnothyps is a HS student-- Penn aspirant. Grain of salt is requisite</p>
<p>@whartonnothyps,
without wharton’s undergrad Penn would be like the other phenomenal ivy league schools. If wharton undergrad is so amazing, then how come harvard and yale and princeton which do not have undergraduate business programs place better into top finance jobs than a wharton undergrad who majored in business? </p>