what my counselor says about berkeley

<p>I can only really comment on Haas, but I think for most UC's it looks similar to this:
50% Coursework (GPA)
35% Essay
15% Resume (EC's)</p>

<p>It is common knowledge that EC's are much more important to privates than they are to the UC's. Publics just get so many applicants with so much "fluff" EC work that there is no way Adcom's can screen it out. Furthermore, privates have so many qualified (read 4.0, crazy EC) applicants that they need EC's to help them weed. UC's, especially when it comes to transfer students, can make the vast majority of their decisions based on GPA. But when it comes down to the line, EC's can get you in over someone equally qualified.</p>

<p>Essays are more important than EC's though. A no-personality robot can have a great GPA and great EC's, but said robot will fail to write a great essay. The essay is your shot at actually becoming a human being to someone looking over your stats, and that's a good thing.</p>

<p>A great essay can get you in even if you have sub-par stats, this is tested and true.</p>

<p>thanks guys...this is great bc i dont plan on having stellar ECs..but i sure as hell have **** to talk about when it comes to overcoming things or just life changing experiences.</p>

<p>John, I also was told that it was useless to apply to Haas by one of my counselors. That seems to be the common consensus among them. As I have stated before I think the essay is what sets you apart from the other applicants. The school has to weed out applicants some how. Your gpa gets you past the initial cutoff and the essay can make you stand out.</p>

<p>yay</p>

<p>i want essay>ec</p>

<p>i want gpa >> *</p>

<p>i want tacos</p>

<p>mmm tacos ..........</p>

<p>with lots and lots of guacamole..</p>

<p>I'll become a senior member in no time by simply saying "I want tacos" on every new post.</p>

<p>Oh and did I forget to mention that I want tacos?</p>

<p>Actually flautas are much better ...so I want flautas</p>

<p>Isn't it flautas?</p>

<p>Anyways, I still want tacos</p>

<p>Thanks Pellman I figured someone would correct me. I had no idea how to spell it. Screw tacos :P</p>

<p>I'm eating an In N Out double-double right now.
:drool:</p>

<p>I like my double-doubles with animal style....</p>

<p>I want tacos as french fries along with that double-double animal style burger...</p>

<p>wow....how dare you people hijack my thread and turn it into one big mexican food discussion! u bastards lol jk</p>

<p>on the real tho...i want some intermezzo (berkeley residents kno what im talking about)</p>

<p>those are good with tacos</p>

<p>i was told:</p>

<p>Hello, cja1130, it appears that you have not posted on our forums in several weeks, why not take a few moments to ask a question, help solve another member's problem, or just join a conversation?</p>

<p>so i'll try to give you my two cents.</p>

<p>i'm kind of weary that counselors are giving that kind of advice. i know a handful of people from my community college who got into cal with a 3.3-3.5 gpa, but one was the president of the student govt, and he wrote about his experiences immigrating to this country, overcoming the language barriers, going to a community college, high school, and language schools to help improve his english/communication skills and then having success in speech and debate a couple of years after. he wrote about starting a business and how that business sustains his family and other ECs he was in. of course it was flowery, and most people dont have experiences like that, but to say gpa is the only criteria that matters would be a lie. because from what i've seen here at cal (in my poli sci classes) so far, most of the students are well-rounded, friendly, and ridiculously smart and i dont think GPA alone would be a good indicator of that. i think gpa would be too one-dimensional for it to be the only thing that mattered. </p>

<p>i think admissions officers here at cal like to see growth. not only that, i think they want you to differentiate yourself. they want you to show how what youve learned in life/school can be applied to the "bigger picture" and how you will impact that picture. (how you will contribute back to society) </p>

<p>my gpa wasnt that great, and it took me awhile to bring it up from a 3.0 but my essays were gold!</p>

<p>i wrote about how student govt and the issues that it faced required the same processes to solving them as if they were world issues. in essence, it was just a microcosm of real world politics. i wrote about how the skills i learned in student gov't were skills necessary in the real world. basically, in a smaller context student gov't was the means by which i learned how to recognize, and develop solutions to problems. because of it, i improved my communication skills, critical thinking, etc. which is also necessary to have success in the political arena. i wrote how success at a smaller level only makes me that much wiser and more able to cure and improve poverty, illiteracy and such things i've seen growing up for a little bit in a 3rd world country.</p>

<p>anyway, it was something like that. i havent read that essay since last year. </p>

<p>maybe this helps.</p>

<p>get involved. make a difference. and give back. there are tons of kids from all over the place w/ stellar gpas, but do they all get into cal? no. distinguish yourself.</p>

<p>regards,
cja</p>

<p>thanks a lot cja. good info/insight</p>