<p>i don't mean like super genius i mean like the average person with some sort of high intelligence or something?????</p>
<p>2000-ish maybe?</p>
<p>Yeah, around that.</p>
<p>average genius? oxymoron? :/</p>
<p>i don't know, i expect it depends on how well rounded they are in terms of speed writing an essay, math, reading, grammar, etc. some geniuses might have a hard time writing the kind of essay CB expects in 25 mins. i would give them more than 2000.. probably 2200 unprepared?</p>
<p>^^ wow id think someone with a 2200 would qualify as a "super genius" lol</p>
<p>2100 then. Hahaha.</p>
<p>"^^ wow id think someone with a 2200 would qualify as a "super genius" lol"</p>
<p>haha.. i don't know, i live in a cosmopolitan (showed up on the test!) area, 2200 is quite low in many people's standards... well, around here at least.</p>
<p>and i still don't understand what an average genius is!! is the average teenager a genius? :P</p>
<p>in california 1900+ and above is considered godly
I used to live back east in CT which I think is top 5 in education and I remember coming to California.. The kids in 4th grade were learning to use binders and doing Division/Multiplication. I learned that stuff in 2nd grade. Now I'm another Californian who gets his high off heavy metal</p>
<p>Now I'm another Californian who gets his high off heavy metal</p>
<p>hahaha! but you cali punks take the ACT more often than kids on the east coast, right?</p>
<p>Nope. ACT is for the midwesterners. Hahaha, SAT is definitely more popular.</p>
<p>no thats the midwest kids..
my CR tutor made a summing statement for the ACT compared to the SAT. He went to Northwestern and his brother goes to Yale.
"The ACT just looks funny. I mean all these kids take the SAT and this kid goes and does the redneck test."</p>
<p>Getting a 2200 hardly qualifies one as a super genius...</p>
<p>What I would like to see is a plot of IQ against SAT score...</p>
<p>My tested IQ (took an official test in 10th grade) was a 149. My SAT score that year was a 1600. My new SAT score was a 2400.</p>
<p>Most people I chilled with in Mensa (18-24) with IQs above 140 scored above 1550 on the old SAT, all with perfect reading scores.</p>
<p>LOLOL</p>
<p>What the heck is "the average genius" haha</p>
<p>
[quote]
What I would like to see is a plot of IQ against SAT score
[/quote]
</p>
<p>If the plot was done right, you would see that there is a RANGE of SAT I scores for any level of IQ score (and the other way around). </p>
<p>I would also like to see such a bivariate plot, based on one of the currently normed recent revisions of some brand of full-scale IQ test, and the "new" SAT I.</p>
<p>In my school, the highest scorer got a 2190...the average is really down in the toilet in the 1500-1600s.</p>
<p>Here's a post of mine from another thread. There has been a lot of research done on the correlation between the (old, non-recentered SAT) and IQ.</p>
<p>"Finally, you just can't convince me that someone who missed one or two is appreciably less intelligent than someone who missed none. They MIGHT be, but I think that that would be difficult (impossible) to prove with the SAT alone, recentering or not."</p>
<p>I would agree with you on a case by case basis. That is, "he got an 800 and missed no questions and I got a 780 and missed one question. That means he is DEFINITELY smarter than me." Not necessarily. Not in that one case. I agree.</p>
<p>HOWEVER, this is EXACTLY what it means when we talk about statistical distributions. In fact, this is the VERY reason the high IQ societies decided to accept the SAT score as useful for admissions. They spent a lot of time and money correlating SAT scores with Stanford-Binet, Wechsler, and other IQ test scores, and they found that, in fact, the SAT score (of the non-recentered test) correlated QUITE STRONGLY with IQ as measured by Stanford-Binet--even, and especially, at the high end. That's why the test was useful to them!!</p>
<p>What that means is that, if you take all the people that missed no questions on the SAT and averaged their IQ scores on the Stanford-Binet, and did the same for those who missed ONE question on the SAT, you would find that the average IQ of the former group IS HIGHER than the latter group, in a large and statistically significant way. That is, as a group, those who missed NO questions on the SAT are, in fact SMARTER than those who missed one question, as measured by IQ score.</p>
<p>That is a statistical FACT. </p>
<p>If you'd like to actually read the painful and very detailed discussion of this issue, I invite you to read the following report from the Prometheus Society. This is a high IQ soceity that takes on the top 1/30,000 people. That is, the top 99.997% of the population based on IQ score. Think this is a joke? It isn't. I direct you to section 8.5 of the report, where they discuss SAT and its correlation to IQ.</p>
<p>So, as much as you'd like to believe that "missing one question" doesn't mean anything, it actually means quite a lot. </p>
<p>A lot of people spent a lot of time and a lot of statistics and a lot of data to prove that it does. </p>
<p>So, it was somewhat difficult to prove, as you suspected. However, it has, in fact, been proven.</p>
<p>"Genius" is generally considered "above IQ=140". On the old, non-recentered SAT, that would be about a 1350 M+V, about the 99.5%. That seems to be about the same for the new SAT M+V.</p>
<p>Note: Mensa considers that scores from after January 31, 1994, "No longer correlate with an IQ test."</p>
<p>The Prometheus Society is a laughingstock. So are most high-IQ societies. Mensa is a fine social organization, highly recommended by one of my local friends, but Mensa was something of a disappointment to its founder. He imagined that Mensa would be called on as a "brain trust" for solving government problems rather than a compiler of puzzle books. </p>
<p>I got a 1460/2230, and I definately do NOT feel like a genius. LOL, I'm not trying to be really modest or something, but there are TONS of times when I don't know stuff.</p>
<p>Mensa is certainly a disappointment. Our meetings consisted of solving Rubik's cubes, eating chocolate (and fruit with chocolate fondue) and discussing various political theories.</p>
<p>I enjoyed my time with the organization...then I just stopped going =( But IT'S STILL ON MY RESUME! Mwahahahhahaha!</p>