<p>Honestly, I think in the future all college degrees will be earned on-line, and we will realize what a waste of time worrying about prestige and CC was.</p>
<p>I’m not sure. Down here in south Alabama, Auburn University and U of AL are considered prestigious. I think part of lay prestige is regional.</p>
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<p>Interesting that you specifically pick that blurb I wrote about Duke. In fact, I seemed pretty general about Stanford as well.
Well, take a look at these points of thoughts.
- Duke is located in the Research Triange. Interesting place. Its an excellent area of booming industries and technology. I find it somewhat like a “mini” Sillicon Valley. However I am somewhat concerned that Duke isn’t as integrated to this place as Stanford is with the Sillicon Valley. There are have plenty of articles on this. I think the Lacrosse incident has a lot to do with this. Over time, I think this will naturally heal; Duke will be better off this way.
- Its sports is top notch, no doubt! Its very similar to Stanford as Duke has sports, academics, prestige, research, etc. Of course Stanford is “better” both objectively and even subjectively than Duke in these areas, but still.
As a Dukey, I admit, I would’ve only traded my Duke experience for Stanford. I wish I had gotten in 
- Duke attracts many National Merit scholars in the Southern Area. I feel it does have a comparable influence in the South as Stanford has in the West. But I must contend the influence Stanford has is stronger in its area.
- Duke’s professional programs are in ~Top 10 by various rankings. Its excellent in Medical Programs. Stanford’s professional schools are ~Top 5. Its excellent in engineering. The lack of the overall engineering strength concerns me about Duke…I wish this aspect changes. Perhaps as the Research Triangle improves ever further to the level of the Sillicon Valley, I suppose Duke can have better engineering programs.
- If it weren’t for these two things, I would DEFINITELY say Duke would be on par with Stanford: #of Nobel Prizes and #of professors associated with National science, engineering, humanities groups. Duke is still new, but that can’t be an excuse forever.</p>
<p>There /rant. Sorry, but I REALLY hope this doesn’t turn out to be another Duke thread. </p>
<p>** Does any other college come to mind? A further upcoming college? If anyone has any info on Olin College, I would be most interested. **
I really like this thread.</p>
<p>^^^^Duke was founded in the 1800’s. It is not new. Are you sure you went there? Stanford is stronger than Duke in almost every comparable discipline, oftentimes it’s not even close. Once again a Dukie is trying to place his school in the realm of HYPSM.</p>
<p>^ I’m going to stay out of this discussion, but in his defense:</p>
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<p>Maybe “new” isn’t exactly the word to describe Duke, but he (or she) in no way tries to put his school with the schools you listed.</p>
<p>rjkofnovi, yes, Trinity College was founded in 1830s~, but the name changed to Duke University around the early 1900s. If “Fresh Choice” changed its name to “Food Rulz” its going to change customer and income expectancy. Names and brand names are very important. </p>
<p>And I thought I made it very explicit that Stanford is stronger than Duke in each bullet…I was simply noting how similar both institutions of higher learning were. I’ll be glad to listen if you can make such points with Harvard and UPenn or Princeton and Dartmouth…isn’t that somewhat the point of this thread? I mentioned a growing university in reference to a stronger institution, which is Stanford in this case. And what is this “HYPSM realm” you’re talking of? I go to one of the HYPSM schools and you act as though you are buddies with this “realm.” Because I can tell you for sure there is no “realm.”
I’m remaining as academic, objective, and kind as possible. I’ve mentioned plenty of schools to keep this thread going. If you lack the courtesy and intelligence to remain academic, then please leave this thread. You’re just embarrassing yourself.</p>
<p>I am loving Duke more and more, I used to think of it as just a school with lacrosse playing rapists with a good bball team, thanks to CC I am now enlightened.</p>
<p>To ripemango: I suggest you look into “Exploring College Options” starring Harvard, Stanford, Duke, Georgetown, and UPenn. This program of colleges travel around and give presentations all over America (world?). Google it.
I believe they should start presentations around fall.</p>
<p>Good luck. And don’t forget to look at Wikipedia if you’re interested in rankings–they have them cited most of it!</p>
<p>PS: Alright, now I’m bored of talking about Duke. Does anyone have any input on ** Olin College? ** I’ve met very brilliant people in this college, not to mention very intelligent and cute women 
I definitely think this is a noteworthy college.</p>
<p>Rice may continue to become more of a national school rather than a regional one. But it is still running about 50% in-state, so it has a ways to go.</p>
<p>^ Oh, I love everything about Rice! Except for its weird name…</p>
<p>Duke is certainly prestigious enough as it stands. I can see Sparkeye7’s points about tOSU gaining prestige, along with quite a few other schools.</p>
<p>It’s amazing to see the people go out of their way to bash Duke. I agree with Saiyan’s points all the way. I consider Duke a “new” university because it has only in the recent decades gained worldwide recognition. I see it rapidly growing.</p>
<p>Vanderbilt’s RD acceptance rate plummeted this year and was comparable to Duke’s. They had more apps than ever, and their SAT averages are in the same league as several ivys. I’d say it’ll be mentioned in the same breath as Duke as the most prestigious southern schools.</p>
<p>which school will gain prestige? boston college.</p>
<p>Sorry, so I kinda misread the OP.
Rising universities:
- Stanford
- Harvey Mudd
- Duke
- Olin College
- UChicago</p>
<p>Schools that will gain prestige:
- Rice
- Vanderbilt
- OSU and BC(?)
I’m kind of distant on BC. I always had the feeling Boston University or Georgetown overshadowed it…please correct if I’m wrong. Its just a hunch.
How about ASU? Its been a party school, but I feel its rising. UCSD is also another interesting university.
UCLA is starting to make its way out of Berkeley’s shadow.</p>
<p>WashU, anyone?</p>
<p>Pittsburgh, for sure</p>
<p>Ohio State—
Pluses: perceived as improving academically, breadth & depth across disciplines
Minuses: Size</p>
<p>Indiana— increased status in the Big 10, more out-of-state recruiting
Pluses: Beautiful campus, breadth & depth across disciplines, great college town
Minuses: Size, no engineering</p>
<p>Texas public universities–hampered by regional identity, though Texas is making a push to develop several major research universities</p>
<p>Longshot—Delaware</p>
<p>there’s no way BU overshadows BC. i’ll concede GT probably has more prestige than BC, but BU isn’t even close in selectivity to BC.</p>
<p>Some posters noted—U Chicago on the rise</p>
<p>Well, they’re doing some marketing to broaden their appeal, but Chicago is unique in American higher education. Arguably, it’s the most scholarly and intellectual American university and far stronger than Harvard in that regard. On the rise? Nope. It’s known world-wide for its accomplishments.</p>
<p>I think Northwestern will rise albeit slowly. The new president wants to market Northwestern’s brand more and aim for a higher US News ranking. And plus he’s doing a lot to improve unity and diversity in the student body. Agreed Northwestern isn’t/won’t be viewed as the intellectual type [think UofC] of university but much more pre-professional. Also the Big Ten expansion, if it continues, won’t be harmful either considering Wildcat football is on the rise. A third consecutive bowl season maybe?</p>