<p>Blue alien is right as long as one of those ones is one ten. </p>
<p>Math in Government, I once looked at a State Budget and found $32 million that was out of place (assumed an inflation rate of around 30% for food, which was probably the inflation rate for some type of medication and got transferred into the wrong program. We ended up using the bulk of that money to enhance another feeding program for children and elderly.</p>
<p>I think every college graduate should be able to read, write, understand a modicum of science and math. You may not realize that math and logic are connected, but you might benefit from seeing the way that math can be used to approach problems..even social problems.</p>
<p>So in response to the original question, If you don't care for math perhaps you should find a better teacher, and while you are looking wonder what others who like math see in it.</p>
<p>Two things that I like about math. It is the search for truth, which is beautiful. Universal math properties like the commutative property are true for any specie. Two things plus one thing is the same as one thing plus two things whether you are a person or a dog eating meatballs.</p>
<p>The second thing that I love about math is that in a world where people can't even agree about which side of the road to drive on, we can agree to certain symbols and caveats (like the order of operations.) Humans agreeing with each other to make the world easier.....you got to love that part too. Find a teacher, who will help you to love math....why should all those other people get joy from it while you are hiding. Find a teacher...</p>
<p>Kimmibee, math has never said a bad word about you. Try to go a day without it...it won't happen....TV, phone...loaded with numbers....time...more numbers
how many chairs for how many guests...distance...cost.. how many waves in a set..beats in a measure....the fractal nature of leaves and rivers, even the number of hearts we break...math</p>
<p>With regard to the use of math: Sometimes there may be no numbers in a situation, but even conjuring hypothetical numbers for a situation leads you to a certain conclusion. I can't think of an example right now.</p>
<p>I also agree that if you add a cup of rocks to a cup of water you would not get two cups of rocky water. So someone like Heisenberg could argue that 1 + 1 = 1.35 or some other interesting number depending on the size of the rocks. So it doesn't bother me that someone applying math to quantum mechanics can create situations where the math rules don't seem to apply, I would argue that they do apply but their is a twist because of the way the math is being used.</p>
<p>One might argue using the associative property that if Bill meets Sally and then they later meet up with John that it should be the same result as if John met Sally first and then they met up with Bill. Then what if someone else sets up the situation so that Sally is going to hook up with the first guy she meets, and so the results aren't the same. Does that mean the associative property didn't apply or doesn't work?</p>
<p>Accordingly, if I add water, acid and a base, my sequencing might alter the outcome. It doesn't mean math doesn't apply....we may just have to peal the onion one layer deeper to understand what math truth is yet to be revealed.</p>
<p>Yes, but my point was the commutative property is not always in effect. I was merely adding an asterisk to your statement.
"I would argue that they do apply but their is a twist because of the way the math is being used."
The beauty of math is that there are no "arguments" but proofs, postulates and theorems. Order simply does matter in matrices.</p>
<p>The funny thing is that I am taking it in summer school. Perhaps some of you have read my other post a little while ago. But to sum it up, it's two weeks, 10 of which are school days, and I love it. I like how we are going at a fast pace. We do all of the assigments in there, and finish every other day off with a test. I currently have a 88% in math, which is a BIG improvement from where I was. Currently we are doing a chapter a day. I wish they would teach math at a fast pace like that. Because a lot of math is just dragged out too long, and I end up forgetting a lot of it.</p>