HI guys, Does anyone know what is the best national awards for HLS admission? what national awards that impress the admission committees the most, and how can I join it?
HLS is 95% two numbers: GPA+LSAT. Then, like all professional schools, HLS prefers a year or two of work experience.
National awards not necessary for H. (EC’s matter for Y & S, due to their small classes.)
Thank you for that information. BTW, is there any Non-prof or Charities impress HLS the most? I will take a gap after I receive my bachelor degree. And I want to use the gap to join those groups for one or two years. My anticipation and gimmick are helping the development of youth preventing them from domestic violence and bullying from societies, school, and communities and giving all juniors equilibrium education opportunities. Any suggestions?
my suggestion is don’t do something as a gimmick. Do it bcos you generally care. In such cases, it will become part of you.
Again, EC’s don’t much matter. H is just not gonna are if you teach for TFA, join the military, tutor the underprivileged, work to reduce bullying, work to prevent domestic violence, or get a job working retail at Walmart. (you’d be surprised what you can learn about others while working retail.)
As long as you do something important to you (while studying for the LSAT).
Touché. thx again for such piercing ideas.
Hank, my daughter is currently wait-listed at HLS. It is first, foremost, and almost 100% about the numbers. Focus your energy on getting a 173 or higher LSAT and getting your GPA up as high as possible. Spending energy pursuing “national awards” if you haven’t first achieved a competitive LSAT/GPA is a waste of time
Thank you there. I am still a sophomore at Berkeley. My “numbers” are unpredictable right now; However, I think that I could already start on doing some extra-curricular work now to enhance my profile. Congratulations to you and your daughter, even been wait-listed is kind of an honor. It presented the hard work and power your daughter has gained. HLS is my dream school, so Jealous. By the way, my potential GPA is like 3.8 for my bachelor’s degree in English. What score I must have on my LSAT to be possibly admitted by HLS so far?
HLS doesn’t like GPAs below 3.85, especially for students applying directly from undergrad. Work to get your GPA up as high as possible, preferably >3.9. Have a look at lawschoolnumbers.com.
OP, you are not a native English speaker, right?
No, I am not. I am an ESL student, also an F-1 international student. Why are you asking this? Is that means I am screwed?
Jesus, a 3.9 is literally impossible for me now. Am I dead to them?
I just mean it makes 3.8 or 3.9 in an English major at UCB a little harder. Are you generally a top 1% test taker, such as for SAT? I think working for a 175 LSAT is tough, but more controllable than hunting for a national award.
No, I am not. I am not smart enough to be Top 1% all the time. T-T Why the world is taking so serious on your undergraduate GPA. I screwed a math class and a business class once. I mean can’t we just let it go? My only wound is my GPA. I will totally slay LSAT. I mean, I will have two or three years to prepare for it. 175 on LSAT? absolutely!!.
It doesn’t matter if YOU don’t place value on your GPA. It’s what the admissions people think that matters.
One word: rankings. (Hint: the main two drivers for USNews is GPA & LSAT. That is why almost nothing else matters.)
@Wje9164be, our good friend’s son was waitlisted by HLS and got off the waitlist after he contacted them to say he was still interested if he had a chance to get off the waitlist. Finally, they admitted him and he had to give up some merit aid at Columbia, find someone to take over his apt lease (he had started one week of classes at Columbia already) and left for Boston.
Fast forward several years later, he now works at a big law firm in NYC and surrounded by Columbia grads as his colleagues. HLS isn’t worth giving up merit aid.
^^My son took the money from Northwestern a few years back and and he is now showing a his first year Associate from YLS the (NYC Big Law) ropes.
OP is on the wrong track. Even asking what ECs hints he/she is not involved now. Suggesting a gimmick isn’t even the sort of thinking. He/she seems kind of wide-eyed, doesn’t seem activated.
Maybe I’m wrong about that. But “dreams” aren’t what gets you there. Or through a top LS. If you’re so interested, talk to career folks at you college, look deeper at how top law schools admit.
Get activated now. Genuinely. Not to game it. And find other programs, as well.
@lookingforward I agree with you.
The OP should be doing what the OP loves, and excelling at it. (And that should include getting great grades and a top LSAT score.) Law school admissions will follow.
I graduated from HLS. I never planned to go there; I just was super-focused on grades and the LSAT, and admissions just happened due to that. OP, do the same.
so true@MaineLonghorn