<p>When California sneezes the whole country catches a cold.</p>
<p>Whether you like it or not, most innovation in any field originates in California … whether it be electronics, bio-tech, software, or movies. Plus california produces a lot of the nations food.</p>
<p>When we want to go abroad, we go to Las Vegas, Tijuana, Vancouver, or Hawaii … that’s how foreign thr rest of the country seems coming from california.</p>
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<p>That’s sad, but in my experience, true. Fortunately, people on the east coast do not share this notion at all.</p>
<p>"When California sneezes the whole country catches a cold.</p>
<p>Whether you like it or not, most innovation in any field originates in California … whether it be electronics, bio-tech, software, or movies. Plus california produces a lot of the nations food.</p>
<p>When we want to go abroad, we go to Las Vegas, Tijuana, Vancouver, or Hawaii … that’s how foreign thr rest of the country seems coming from california."</p>
<p>Blaw, you have just so eloquently given the best reason for California kids to study elsewhere and avoid the UCs. </p>
<p>To answer to the OP, ultimately it’s not about ranking and reputation, but an education, one that open one’s vision and awareness. </p>
<p>As for out of state kids coming in to study at the UCs. Beware of the brain-washing into this kind of ignorance by your California peers.</p>
<p>I hate to say this but “the world does not revolve around California”. I am sure California have many great schools, but there are many other states with great schools. Also, you mentioned job prospect in California, but you should be reminded that many people are fleeing California by the thousands, because of the disastrous financial situation in that State. Also, many companies are leaving. I live in Wisconsin, and people here don’t differenciate much between Cornell and Stanford. They are both considered to be great schools equally, regardless of ranking. At least from my experience, Cornell does have a better prestige in middle america than any other school in California with the exception of Stanford.</p>
<p>jamaica, “the world does not revolve around California”- now, if only we could get Californians to understand that !</p>
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<p>Please let’s not group Stanford in the same sentence with UCLA and Cal. This is an insult to Stanford.</p>
<p>for those who care about rankings
[Top</a> Undergraduate Business Programs 2010 - BusinessWeek](<a href=“http://bwnt.businessweek.com/bschools/undergraduate/10rankings/?chan=magazine+channel_special+report]Top”>http://bwnt.businessweek.com/bschools/undergraduate/10rankings/?chan=magazine+channel_special+report)</p>
<p>2010 businessweek ranked cornell AEM #5 in the country for undergrad business.</p>
<p>Berkeley was 6th. Ross 8th, Stern 12.</p>
<p>at my high school (in CA), UCs aren’t prestigious really. we send 30-40 people to ucb, ucla, ucsd, uci. EACH. and those are the people who actually go. the 20-30 people who go to better schools pretty much all got accepted into those places too.</p>
<p>mixed reviews on cornell. some people like it, many consider it a reject ivy and in the middle of nowhere. not really sure about cornell vs. berkeley comparison.</p>
<p>At least in Southern California, Cornell doesn’t have that much prestige as it probably has in other parts of the country. It’s academics are seen as on par with Berkeley, so people focus on how it’s in a boring/cold area and is much more expensive. Most of my friends would choose Berkeley over Cornell (including me), and honestly I think I would have gotten into Cornell if I had applied</p>
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<p>It’s generally accepted within the business/investment banking community that businessweek’s rankings are total crap. Which is one of the reasons why Wharton doesn’t even give their information to them, so businessweek just uses their own estimates.</p>
<p>Wouldn’t be so sure about that^. You seem like some kid who grew up in an educated family and should’ve accomplished a lot but didn’t except for test scores and other boring things like that. No initiative.</p>
<p>“I think I would have gotten into Cornell if I had applied” </p>
<p>generally students who think Cornell is cold and boring have a pretty low chance of getting in~</p>
<p>Handlebars- Do you realize Cornell received something like 39,000+ apps for 3,000+ spots! I wouldn’t be so confident!</p>
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<p>I don’t doubt that Cornell’s reputation isn’t that high in California. Just spend time with folks from SoCal and you realize very quickly that they hold places like UCLA and USC as “prestigious” while people out east would never even think of those places in such a way. Regional bias is always a factor.</p>
<p>The saddest thing about this individual’s post is that s/he is letting a bunch of high school kids who have never spent time in Ithaca convince him/her that Cornell is boring and cold. </p>
<p>I’ve known a lot of people who graduated from Cornell - some new minted and others out for decades. Not one has EVER reflected on their time on the hill as “cold and boring”. Quite the opposite, in fact. A lot of people I know who have gone on to live in very lively and often warm places still hold their time up there as amongst the best they’ve had. </p>
<p>So, watch making assumptions - about a place you’ve never been and a place you’ve never applied.</p>
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Sorry, you don’t really know enough about me to make that assumption. But, just curious, what would be examples of “initiative” and “accomplished a lot”?</p>
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Haha I agree, I was a little rash to say that. But for everyone, it’s a judgement from their own perspective, so it’s inherently subjective. It’s just that I do feel that I would be stronger than most applicants, but that’s just an opinion and I could be totally wrong!</p>
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Well, I’m kind of basing it off my brother’s experiences when he was applying. Cornell gave him pretty bad financial aid, the main reason I didn’t apply. And, he visited and left with a bad impression. But you’re right, I wouldn’t know unless I went there myself</p>
<p>They probably accept about 6k of the 39k though</p>
<p>In 2008 Cornell admitted 21% of 33K applicants (nces.ed.gov stats).
This year San Diego State will likely admit only a similar percentage because way too many kids applied. So you can’t argue selectivity = prestige. Surely it means popularity. The question is simply: popular with whom? Nerds or geeks like that guy from Office?</p>
<p>^^Nard dog represent!!! lol</p>
<p>Most people in the area where I live, regard Cornell as on par of even above Berkeley. They often hear the name associated with not being as good as Harvard, but certainly up there. For me, If I were given the choice between Cornell or UCB, I’d take Cornell.</p>
<p>@blaw: It’s not just the acceptance rate that = prestige. It’s the quality of applicants. 21% accepted for one college is a different from 21% accepted for another.</p>
<p>Cornell= #1 in Architecture according to DESIGN INTELLIGENCE REPORT. CALPOLY = #3; UCLA did not make top twenty.</p>
<p>in engineering, Berkeley beats Cornell by a lot
in business, Haas is more prestigious than Cornell</p>
<p>Cornell wins in overall undergraduate studies and the fact its an Ivy, albeit the lowest one</p>
<p>Cornell may win in other areas, but Berkeley grads in business / engineering are more sought after</p>
<p>Typically in the west coast, Berkeley, UCLA, CalTech, and Stanford degrees are considered most prestigious…few people come from ivies</p>