<p>Differential: You're just a stupid moron. I didn't buy any of that BS...</p>
<p>and that you have real world experience.</p>
<p>Exactly! Companies wish more to see ability of a future employee, rather than educational academia. Put it this way, a graduate of Harvard could have his diploma from the institution, but is absolutely worthless when working. An employer must choose whether to have a "prestigious" college, or an able working employee who brings money to the company.</p>
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<p>um, why bump? You won't change the minds of the people here who value going to ivy league colleges like gold... I'm sorry, but people here want to be succesful.... You are probably just some worker in the service industry whos just jealous of the people going to Elite colleges</p>
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An employer must choose whether to have a "prestigious" college, or an able working employee who brings money to the company
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Many times that will be the same person. People good enough to get into top colleges are often good enough to bring in the goodults in the corporate world.</p>
<p>"Exactly! Companies wish more to see ability of a future employee, rather than educational academia. Put it this way, a graduate of Harvard could have his diploma from the institution, but is absolutely worthless when working. An employer must choose whether to have a "prestigious" college, or an able working employee who brings money to the company."</p>
<p>Robert: Except people who go to prestigious schools have enough brains to realize the eureka you've just come accross, and often take part in internships/research/etc. You think they got into these colleges just moping around?</p>
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just some worker in the service industry whos just jealous of the people going to Elite colleges
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<p>Wow, bigtime elitism. You hold to the philosophy that the ONLY way to be successful is by going to an ivy. Right? Well, I disagree. As long as you are talented and hardworking, you will be successful regardless of which college you attend.</p>
<p>well, if choice of college isn't important, than why have SATs, class rank, ECs, Ap classes, etc? Clearly the effort of the people who go to ivy league college WILL pay off</p>
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Reagan was president and he didn't even go to college.
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uh what are you talking about? reagan went to eureka college. granted this still helps your argument but still...</p>
<p>^Hah! Reagan seemed to do well considering his great success. And he went to a "dumb" college, lower tier.
You may say, "Well, golly gee, he was GOOD at what he did, regardless of his policy, and succeeded in life. Skill trumps a piece of paper.</p>
<p>the cases where you can be succesful regardless of college name are outliers... The MAJORITY of people who go to mediocore school get MEDIOCORE jobs, you only named a few "outlier" like ronald reagan that didn't seem to follow that part. A higher percentage of people in IVY LEAGUE colleges get outstanding jobs than people who go to average american school...</p>
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<p>kay, first, stop shouting out these statements when you have absolutely no statistical proof to back up your argument. Really, you are arguing our of ignorance when you make such shallow assumptions. Are you telling me that EVERY successful person in this nation went to an ivy? Are you saying that the vast majority of state university graduates end up with mediocre jobs and salaries? Wow, I must say that is most ignorant comment I have ever heard. So, I guess restaurant owners, doctors, lawyers, people who have committed their lives to these professions but graduated from average colleges are not successful. </p>
<pre><code> Nepotism has wreaked havoc at those schools seeing that the vast MAJORITY of the students at Harvard or Yale were children of the rich and famous, children of parents who make excessive amounts of money. Guess those people in the US who make less than 30K a year are out of luck on going to those schools. You may say,"WELL! That is not true!!!" "There are many folks who have outstanding SAT scores and GPA." Big deal, people apply with 2400s all the time and are rejected. That is where nepotism must take hold, know someone in the ADCOM at Harvard, or be waitlisted. Unless you are Native American or Ethiopian or something.
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Are you telling me that EVERY successful person in this nation went to an ivy? Are you saying that the vast majority of state university graduates end up with mediocre jobs and salaries?
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I said a MAJORITY... And yes, the vast majority of average schools like state university grads make the average wages (less than 50,000 a year)</p>
<p>Statistical data, please. Again, to say,"Yessir, them state university graduates make mediocre salaries." is blatantly ignorant and unfactual.
To say a majority is somewhat of a strong statement, especially without statistical data to prove it.</p>
<p>well, why do I need to prove? Its all common sense</p>
<p>Common sense, eh? Huh, interesting!
There are giant flying purple dinosaurs in outer space, it's common sense, no need to prove.</p>
<p>The only thing funnier than watching these kids argue the supposed superiority of an ivy is when the colleges realize how one-dimensional they are and reject them. God I love the ivy forums in April.</p>
<p>robert e lee i agree with you for the most part. but youre just so darn adament about it that it makes it seem like ivy league kids and the like arent as successful in the workplace- which is just plain untrue. kids from state u arent really more successful, which you seem to believe.</p>
<p>Rober e LEe gogoggogogo~ i agree with somehow , everything u said.. </p>
<p>I think his point is that dont be too strassed :)</p>
<p>TheKramer,
I apologize if I purveyed the message that graduates from ivies will not be successfull. That is certainly not the case. My main argument to go-vibe and others is that one can be equally successful at either a state uni or an ivy, as long as one is talented at what they do and determined to succeed.
I just wish to say that these two categories of graduates have equal opportunity to succeed in the workplace.</p>
<pre><code>Go-Vibes philosophy is that only ivy graduates will be successful and a majority of state uni graduates go on to mediocre jobs and lives which is certainly not the case. I believe that one can be successful at any accredited school, whether ivy or state.
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