<p>Seriously just google some of the procedures OMSF do, like Bilateral sagital split osteotomies, orthognathic surgeries (lefort 3), etc. </p>
<p>Oh btw, dentistry is very, very lucrative. I hear way more physicians regretting their career choice or telling their kids to go into dentistry. I’ve yet to hear dentists say the same and wish they went to med school to be become “real” Dr’s.</p>
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Originally Posted by xXCOwHoRnXx<br>
(During these past months, after traveling across the country to interview at various Oral Surgery programs and learning about them in detail, I have come across an issue often spoken about but rarely seriously addressed.
Oral Surgery brings out the underlying problem that medicine does not respect the mouth and thus has neglected that body part as some auxillary appendage to be soley dealt by “dental”.</p>
<p>The fact that not all surgery programs are 6 year bothers me. Why have we as a profession stayed so divided?? Dentistry seems to be the most cliquey profession out there. You have rivalries between perio and OS, between pedo and ortho, and endo with the GP’s. then you have the OS guyz who claim that 6 is better or 4 is just as good if not better due to more “surgey experience”.</p>
<p>What if all OS programs where 6 years? Why not???
One point i think is valid is because you dont need an MD degree to make the bucks. Wizzies alone can bring in HUGE cash but mandible fractures or orthognathic seems to be a charitable service relegated to academics. Why hasn’t OMFS faught the HMO’s like medicine?? Imgaine if Orthognathics and trauma braught in more $$$ than wizzies, I would guess that more guyz would do the 6 year with fellowships then. random thought guyz, hopefully start some intelligent forum talk about OMFS. Or get flamed, either way i’ve killed time before my next patient.)</p>
<p>Plain and simple, the MD ISN’T necessary. It is nice, it is an adjunct, it enriches those who do it (not $$$ but knowledge enriching)and it might open up more opportunities. I’ve done multiple rotations with medical students thinking that I was so inferior, only to find that I could crush them in almost every way. If the four year is hospital based with a wide scope, you will see, get exposed to, treat and feel comfortable with most anything that you will need to or that a medical student will. This is my opinion. I have MD and certificate attendings and trust me, the MD isn’t necessary and the certificate guy is just as competent if not more than other attendings even those that attended top 5 medical schools… I listen to guys like Ellis, Marx, Van Sickles, Haug and many others and I think, if you want to be a stallion you will be a stallion with or without medical school. Med school helps but it isn’t necessary. I’ve seen plenty of “over-degreed” tooth shuckers who were an extreme disappointment in terms of knowledge, skill, and scope… Excellence and opportunity is up to the individual and his training not the degrees behind his name. I can see how my opinion might upset those who have spent many years working hard on their MDs but I stand behind my statements. Look at those who fail OMFS boards and see their distribution between MDs and non-MDs… it is very telling. Plenty of certificate guys around the country are doing excellent wide scope OMFS, cosmetics etcetera without the MD. It might take a little more work, a little wiggling, and some time and sacrifice but it can be developed…</p>
<p>^^you do realize that this is a two-year old thread, and the posters are likely long-gone?</p>