<p>I mean I am really confused about Rose`s reputation. I dont wanna sound like someone who is merely looking for name recognition but rather, I just would like to understand what people really think about this school specially in the engineering field. It is true that according to UsNews, it is the best engineering school out there but lets face it, the fact that it is not even ranked in the same category as Stanford, MIT or Gatech really bother me and my father...plus, I am currently living in NY where almost NO ONE knows about this school. Since I am planning on not staying in Indiana, that name recognition really matters for me. So I need a clarification about that please..
What? Is that school seen as of a lower level than those top notch research universities? is going to a research (where doctorate is offered ) really matters when it comes to recruiting?
I`ve been waitlisted at UVA and is still is waiting for Poly NYU which is a wayyyyy under Rose-Hulman to me.....</p>
<p>First, 20 minutes without a response doesn't mean you need to bump.</p>
<p>Anyways... If name recognition is what's important to you ("Since I am planning on not staying in Indiana, that name recognition really matters for me."), then go based on name recognition. And where CAN you go? You say you were waitlisted at UVA and waiting on Poly NYU, so what are you comparing the name recognition with? (Sure you could compare it with MIT, but if you didn't get into MIT then it won't help you, will it?)</p>
<p>Rose is not in the same category as large research universities and there is no way around it. That is not what it promotes itself as competing with. Rose prides itself on small classes, good opportunities, good academics, etc. In terms of pay upon employment? Sure name recognition may count, and Rose name recognition does not reach as far as MIT. But in NY, an employer choosing between a UVA grad and a Rose Hulman grad would doubtfully choose based on school (in my opinion). Experience, GPA, etc would matter more. So what counts is what school can give you the best options/opportunities in between HS and college graduation. Sure you may be building experience in the midwest (with internships or what have you) but once you graduate you can certainly extend you reach. Additionally, many companies that recruit here have locations outside the midwest. Just because you are recruited in the midwest doesn't mean you have to stay here.</p>
<p>If you go to a large research university and don't intend on doing research, then you are giving up one of the primary advantages of a research university... research.</p>
<p>It's true that Rose does not have great name recognition in the general populace. I'm from Georgia and when I told people I was going to Rose-Hulman, almost no one had heard of it. But it does have good recognition where it matters, and that's in academia and industry.</p>
<p>Rose is not ranked in the same category as Stanford, MIT, Caltech, etc... for the simple reason that the highest degree offered is a Master's. That's obvious because that's what the rankings say...</p>
<p>The reason that Rose does not have a graduate program is because the institute's focus is on undergraduate education. That's something that you cannot say about any of those other engineering schools, big or small. Their focus is spread between the undergraduate and graduate programs, with the emphasis often unevenly shifted on the research/graduate student work. Rose-Hulman has made its name for being a great undergraduate engineering school and that's how it's going to stay for the foreseeable future.</p>
<p>It~s an honest and pertinent critic. I am well into Rose`s initiative of promoting education in small and well taught classes though.</p>
<p>The fact of also understanding that no matter the college, you have to outdid yourself is well stocked in my mind. My concern is about getting a clearer point on how this school is viewed upon the other. That will be helpful in understanding why there are two categories of engineering schools.</p>
<p>Indeed whereas in Usnews they did make the split among the eng.schools, they didnt give a specific reason explaining why they did so. Anyway thanks for the contribution.</p>
<p>All over. I asked the admissions folks the same question when I was a HS senior and they mailed me a list of the schools that students had gone to in the past 3 years. I'm sure if you emailed the admissions folks they could get you that as well.</p>
<p>Thanks man a lot. one more thing, I am really aware of how good is Rose Hulman and as a fact, I am asking all these question in order to show my father how wonderful is this school and that I will be happy going to indiana. I just want to make sure that I know what Im doing now.</p>
<p>dko, I'll try to explain why there are two categories in the US News rankings. If you visit Rose or other primarily undergraduate schools, every professor you meet and every lab and classroom you see are used for undergraduate classes. At the larger schools, most of the well known professors do not teach undergrad classes and the impressive labs are for graduate students. It's very difficult to compare the quality of undergraduate education between schools that do and do not offer advanced degrees, especially since US News uses the opinions of other educators to create the rankings. Most educators surveyed probably wouldn't differentiate between MIT's overall reputation and it's reputation as an undergraduate school, but if you are looking for an undergraduate school that's something you should care about.</p>
<p>As far as name recognition, I've been surprised at how many people have heard of Rose. Almost every engineer I've met has heard of it and normally they say something to the effect of "yeah, that's a really good school." I actually first heard of Rose because my dad's company had recently hired a couple of Rose grads and was very impressed with them. Before that none of us had heard of Rose. Rose has also grown and become more prestigious in the last few years, so the word is just starting to get out to a lot of people and I'm sure it's reputation will continue to grow in the next few years.</p>
<p>RHIT is an excellent school, and other things being equal (such as GPA, major, work experience) you should see a plus for coming from Rose-Hulman because you will likely be more able to perform well on your first day as an engineer. This results from the small classes, teaching excellence, community learning, etc., that you will experience at Rose. After a few years, the excellence of your education should be a wind at your back, but most of your opportunities will come from your efforts in the work force.</p>
<p>I'm an engineer, and my DD is not going to attend one of the research schools she was accepted at, but rather go to RHIT in the Fall. I'm pleased with her decision.</p>
<p>That seems to be clear in my head now. How about the workload?, I mean I am someone who loves studying but when it comes to entertainment I not stingy.So can you please tell about the activities? the Soccer team?</p>
<p>I am from the midwest, near Dayton, Ohio. I'm also near Wright-Patterson Air Force Base, which employs a lot of Rose grads, and that certainly does make a difference. But it was actually the San Antonio office of my dad's company that had hired Rose grads. While I was in Florida recently, I wore my Rose sweatshirt and several people commented that they knew someone who went there or had visited the campus. We are primarily a midwestern school, but the name recognition around the country is only getting better over time.</p>
<p>The fact that no one has heard of it might be true in most places but I think as an engineer aspiring student, the only I should care about is whether it is known in the field, which seem to be done.</p>
<p>I'd like to add that traditionally many new engineering college grads are recruited on campus (RHIT has a really impressive program to do this). So wherever you go, anywhere in the country, the companies that recruit on campus are your first targets for getting a good job out of school. In this regard, whether this person or that person has heard of RHIT is not relevant; the excellence of the recruiting program is what counts.</p>
<p>Once you've had a first engineering job for 2-3 years, your ability to relocate around the country is not tied in any way to where you went to college. It is all about how good you are, what you know how to do, and how good you are at it.</p>
<p>In this way, the quality of the education you receive is a key element that is going to enable you to move around the country, or to rise in a company.</p>