When a "safety" isn't safe...

Thx. I was just curious.

@Lindagaf So how much longer will it take for Clemson to become like Ga Tech?

No idea. I think that something has to give though. If everyone is jostling to have a lower acceptance rate, at some point very soon, it will just become meaningless. I really think USNWR has a lot to answer for. Every school is trying to game the acceptance rate somehow. I prefer other rankings, as I don’t think they weigh acceptance rate so heavily.

@Lindagaf Thx

@Lindagaf: I agree. That’s why I prefer to tier by alumni achievements. But it’s not just USNews. You see on CC just how naive/gullible some people are as plenty seem to rank the prestige and desirability of schools by their admit rate.

@PurpleTitan Do you know any good cs rankings?

@Mahindra: You can see the top tech company feeders here: https://www.■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■/blog/category/infographics/

@PurpleTitan That was a cool site but for some reason it only breaks down outcome by selectivity when the selectivity is important… It seems kind of strange that they don’t have that explanation for the tech/engineering feeders.

@chansu99 ???

What do you mean? The fine print is there for tech and engineering as well.

Maybe it’s a chromebook thing, but I couldn’t find it even after looking.

If Clemson had the same ratio of students to state population as G Tech, it would be as selective. All CLemson would have to do is drop enrollment down to 7000 students to achieve this.

Any state with a large population like GA is going to allow a university to be selective especially if they hold enrollment to 15,000 students like G Tech does.

Clemson has a large undergrad engineering enrollment (21st in the country in 2015) for a university a less populated state, thus it is less selective. But engineering programs are self selective anyway. It is a challenging field and the math scares a lot of students away. I saw a stat in a Clemson engineering brochure that Clemson engineering had the 10th highest ACT scores in the country in 2015.

Was that 10th highest in the country or in the ACC (which would still be pretty darn good)?

http://profiles.asee.org/profiles/6774/screen/19

Clemson was in the top 10 for public universities. the small private universities can be more selective because they are small and not required to take x number of in state students.

@MaryHeath I live in the upstate of SC and have been very active on the Clemson threads. I can confirm that there were quite a few candidates this year who considered Clemson a “safety” that were waitlisted, bridged or rejected. Admission to Clemson has gotten quite selective over the past several years , and quite a few instate students who would’ve been accepted easily just several years ago are being locked out.

From an international applicant

@TomSrOfBoston (-‸ლ) (facepalm)

^^^ now that is crazy stuff!!! 8-X

My son did not apply to any school he would not be happy to attend. He applied to 8 schools of the 20 or so we visited and 1 school we knew well of but had not toured.

Of the schools he applied to, his particular stats against admissions profiles gave him a 94% chance at one school and a .6% at another. Those were the outliers. Most schools were 40-60% possibilities.

Of the 9 he applied to, only 2 turned him down flat. He shrugged. He knew they were very unlikely. He absolutely refused to invest himself in any one school emotionally. (Like marriage, the feeling just has to be mutual to be healthy.)

I endorsed his stoicism, having read about a top Harvard reject killing himself: Who told that kid he was only as worthy as his school acceptance?

Break your heart over no school.

From the beginning we agreed that we would each follow up as much as possible with each school, and express those things we especially admired. Those interactions were personal and genuine. (Many schools asked for feedback.)

People get caught up in status and treat schools like designer brands that confer importance and reflect one’s trendiness. We are social status creatures by habit, and need to remind ourselves that school rank and “name” are not important.

What’s important is how a school follows through on its commitment to educate you. How that school’s style and content matches yours. Who are the individuals that administrate and teach, and, of course, who are the other students?

A successful match involves individual specifics too numerous to list–the specificity and nebulousness of “fit;” which also requires a certain flexibility on both sides.

Successful college application, acceptance, and enrollment is research and due diligence on a foundation of schoolwork and well-established K-12 enrichment–but it also requires good luck.

Reporting on his first week at his new school, S says he is very happy. (Knock on wood.)

@IvyGrad09 S18 is starting to get things rolling and we aspire to follow a path similar to yours.