When did P "catch up" to H and Y?

<p>Even in 2006 when posted, that NYT data seems out of line.</p>

<p>Duke fares much better against the Ivies than indicated in that survey according to what the dean of admissions says.</p>

<p>[Duke</a> still step below top schools | The Chronicle](<a href=“http://dukechronicle.com/article/duke-still-step-below-top-schools]Duke”>http://dukechronicle.com/article/duke-still-step-below-top-schools)</p>

<p>**"'Christoph Guttentag, dean of undergraduate admissions, said data indicates that for the classes of 2008 and 2009, about 85 percent of students accepted to Duke and one of the five institutions that fall in the first group of competing schools–a group for which Guttentag uses the acronym “H-Y-P-S-M”–did not choose Duke.</p>

<p>“The numbers vary from year to year but stay in fairly defined ranges,” Guttentag wrote in an e-mail.</p>

<p>Yet by many measures, Duke ranks on par with the rest of the Ivy League-in particular, Brown, Columbia, Dartmouth and Penn.</p>

<p>During the last two years, Guttentag said data indicates that between 40 and 60 percent of students accepted to Duke and one of the second group of competing schools chose Duke.</p>

<p>Duke enrolls between 75 and 90 percent of cross-admitted students from the third group of top competitors, which includes Cornell, Northwestern and Georgetown."'**</p>

<p>So, Duke loses 85% of cross admits to HYPSM.
Duke enrolls between 40-60% of cross admits to the remaining 5 Ivies.
Duke enrolls between 75 and 90% of cross admits to the next tier of competition-Georgetown, Cornell and Northwestern.</p>

<p>If anyone else knows articles which cite admissions yield estimates from other deans of admission, that would give us a very clear idea of revealed preferences.</p>

<p>[Harvard/Yale</a> cross-admits explain their decisions | Yale Daily News](<a href=“http://www.yaledailynews.com/news/2010/sep/21/harvardyale-cross-admits-explain-their-decisions/]Harvard/Yale”>http://www.yaledailynews.com/news/2010/sep/21/harvardyale-cross-admits-explain-their-decisions/)</p>

<ol>
<li>h/y numbers are close to 2004 report</li>
<li>h wins h/y battle, but y wins more cross-admits from h than other schs</li>
</ol>

<p>there was also a stanford report a while back noting stanford’s faring against hypm. it mentioned how stanford trounced berkeley in cross-admits.</p>

<p><a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/college-search-selection/1010843-stanfords-cross-admits-hypm-class-2014-a.html[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/college-search-selection/1010843-stanfords-cross-admits-hypm-class-2014-a.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>[2012</a> Parchment Top Choice College Rankings: All Colleges | Parchment - College admissions predictions.](<a href=“http://www.parchment.com/c/college/college-rankings.php]2012”>http://www.parchment.com/c/college/college-rankings.php)</p>

<p>^ this site is dodgy at best. </p>

<p>according to it, yale loses to harvard 34/66 (compared to princeton’s 20/80 and stanford’s 22/78), wins princeton 80/20, wins stanford 67/33, but it’s fourth overall behind princeton and stanford? doesn’t make sense to me.</p>

<p>also, upenn splits with princeton/stanford and wins yale/mit. really?</p>

<p>As I mentioned above, the parchment.com site is very suspect as people self-select to report. The number of self reporting as attending these colleges is NOT close to proportional.</p>