When people don't vaccinate their kids

My non-verbal S needed comprehensive medical records before going into residential placement and receives all immunizations.

My other S attended two public universities, for undergrad and grad. Each required immunization records. The undergrad required a recent physical as well; the grad school asked only for immunization records, even though he had no intention of living in a dorm.

k-12 schools (public and private) in our area require immunization records; no clue wrt how strict they have been about vaccination exemptions. The private schools in our area (even including many private special education schools for LD students) are pretty strict these days about screening out students who have ever been diagnosed with an ASD, though, however “mild.”

This is regardless of the child’s IQ or level of academic functioning. Parents seem to be routinely advised to take their children to the public school if a diagnosis is made after the student has been enrolled, according to what I am learning from my autism community contacts. Some also screen out ADHD students. (D, now out of college, had to disclose whether or not she had ever been diagnosed with an ASD or ADHD on her private preschool applications, so I suppose this has been going on for at least twenty years.)

The Onion is not the only one to engage in satire:

http://www.eyeofthetiber.com/2015/02/06/isis-threatens-to-vaccinate-hostages/

Funny as #%@*!

Haha @Nrdsb4‌

Okay, I’m having trouble taking this “news story” seriously.

Anyone else find their BS meter going off?

http://www.myfoxphilly.com/story/28056642/parents

In the old days there were measles parties, and nowadays some people are seriously deluded. So it could be true.

I had never heard of anyone actually having a chicken pox " party", and I was around in the old days.
Unless I saw documentation, I believe that an isolated incident or two does not make a " trend".

Idea- it was pointed out that we do not allow personal, religious or even medical exemptions for not restraining your child in a protective device in the car. Wouldn’t vaccinations fall under the same thing?

I absolutely find it believable. There are kooks out there saying the Measles isn’t that bad.

Anti vaxx parents have already proven their gullibility. What’s another ridiculous idea?

I think these parents should be prosecuted for child endangerment.

vaccines cause autism:

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We should certainly allow medical exemptions to vaccination, though. A kid with leukemia shouldn’t be getting vaccinations.

Absolutely, cf. Have people been arguing against even medical exceptions??

I was just saying that emeraldkity said we don’t allow medical exemptions for seat belts, or religious or personal stupidity belief exemptions, so we shouldn’t allow them for vaccination. And I agree that we shouldn’t allow religious or personal stupidity belief exemptions, but we definitely need to allow medical exemptions. But I don’t think emeraldkity would disagree with that.

@Cardinal Fang, I don’t think anyone on this thread has taken an opposing position to your statement.

Lol, you edited after I posted. Funny.

How do you put the line through a word like that?

Anti-vaxxers WANT their kids to get the measles?? That should fall under child abuse/neglect.

@emeraldkity4 - interestingly, there are occasional medical exemptions to the normal kind of carseats. I had a friend whose second child was born with a condition where his organs weren’t properly inside his body, and he had to have some kind of pouch for them until he grew larger (and then they repaired it surgically and gave him a “belly button”) - in fact, she had a special restraint for the car and a medical letter about it. This was in Canada.

It’s called strike through and you use an ‘s’.

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take away the space becomes

cross it out

Although we allow a lot of behavior in this country that could fall under child abuse/neglect.
Did you know some countries restrict or even ban, advertising directed at children?
In the US we had cartoon characters pitching tobacco!

http://time.com/2808969/e-cig-ads-luring-teens-and-young-adults-jumps-321/

EK- To me advertising is indirect harm, with likely no immediate consequence. Measles parties are directly harmful to children.

“I had never heard of anyone actually having a chicken pox " party”, and I was around in the old days.
Unless I saw documentation, I believe that an isolated incident or two does not make a " trend"."

Sorry, ek. They were common. If one child had it, the parent invited other children over (willingly and with full knowledge of the parents). The goal was to get it “over and done with” esp when the child was younger, it wouldn’t interfere too much with school, etc.

I knew people who held chicken pox parties when my kids were little but that was in the very early days of the vaccine when many pediatricians were not yet recommending it out of fear that it would impart very weak and temporary immunity, leading to more dangerous cases of adult chicken pox. I have heard of current parties, but I think they’re much rarer now that the vaccine has been shown to be safe and effective.