You must not get out much
Thats priceless, Nrdsb4!
@anxxghost - Ms. McCarthy’s Playboy career has nothing whatsoever to do with the stupidity of her views of vaccinations.
What Ms. Walburg doesn’t understand is that even though her son is autistic, if he doesn’t get his vaccinations, he can also get measles. It’s not trading one for the other. One condition can’t be prevented, but one can. She’s just confused on which is which.
But it turns out her son isn’t autistic but more likely has Landau-Kleffner syndrome, IIRC
The only way I remotely know anyone who was a Playboy bunny is that an old childhood friend has a niece who was one. I think she did it for a few years, then took her money and went to nursing school, and now works as a nurse. I’d respect her scientific input, and much more than Jenny McCarthy’s.
Jenny McCarthy is getting way too much credit here. She is a comic actress/model/mom/whatever and although she has a big mouth she is not the most powerful voice of the anti-vax movement, by far.
Oh gawd! I’m not sure who I’d be less confident in taking advice from RE how to run my personal life and bring up my kids.
More satire:
http://reductress.com/post/i-know-whats-best-for-the-health-of-my-family-and-its-magical-thinking/
^^^^Note about above:
Someone sent me this article, which I appreciated for its humor, but I don’t necessarily advocate/condone/agree with all of the material found within that web site.
Regarding post #2464, my son was diagnosed with autism and now we understand it is part of the symptoms of a treatable illness. He is still diagnosed as autistic, but the cause is medical.
Autism is a group of symptoms, usually diagnosed by filling out a parent survey, and a teacher survey for older kids. Saying her kid has a medical diagnosis and therefore doesn’t meet a set of symptoms which are called autism doesn’t make sense.
And regardless of what anyone thinks of her presentation of what she believes, there is a chance that her son did have a particular rare medical condition that was subclinical until vaccination caused it to become symptomatic. This has NOTHING to do with vaccination en masse, vaccination is administration of a pharmaceutical and no pharmaceutical is completely safe (see my previous post on aspirin for children). I’m sure the average layperson would be shocked to know how little we know about immunology, and even how vaccination works.
I feel that the cost-benefit ratio weighs heavily towards as high as possible vaccination coverage, for certain vaccinations. But I do know that with certain diseases, including cancer for example, vaccines are contraindicated, and it is possible if her son had been identified as being at risk, he would not have shown the symptoms that led to his autism diagnosis.
Two other examples are Jarts and Vioxx. A girl was playing in her backyard, and some neighbor kids threw a Jart over the fence, and it hit and killed the poor thing. So her father got Jarts banned. Vioxx killed a few more people than predicted, but still was in line with other NSAIDs. But people started suing, questionable release of data (even though the data was similar to that for other NSAIDs) and Vioxx was taken off the market.
The greater good is served by requiring vaccination, but some people will be harmed by vaccination. Just like some kids were harmed by aspirin, but I and many others were fed aspirin as a kid and are none the worse for wear. Now aspirin is not recommended for children.
And some got Reye’s syndrome and died.
http://abcnews.go.com/Health/ColdandFluNews/story?id=6418974
Maybe it should be called the Hippocritical Oath?
Ba - da- bing!
There is a thread going in my nursing forum about anti-vax nurses. It’s absolutely incredible what a few of these “educated professionals” have to say about vaccines, the immune system, etc. They get their “data” from anti-vax websites, mommy blogs, “natural medicine” web sites, etc. If they are asked to produce actual data to substantiate a claim, they simply give you a link to a blog rather than a citation of a peer reviewed study or the like.
It’s rather scary.
The clinic that I go to requires that anyone who won’t get vaccinated against the flu wear a mask at all times.
Remarkably, the vaccination rates in our clinic are incredibly high 
Romani, fortunately a lot of facilities are requiring vaccines as a condition of employment. You get vaccinated or you don’t work there. Others will allow them to wear masks, but not all of them.
There are always threads on the nursing forum about that, too, with a surprising number of nurses complaining about “forced vaccination.”
It seems really odd that anyone working in a medical care environment would resist getting all possible vaccines for diseases that they may be exposed to in such an environment. I would expect such people to be first in line for the vaccines, if only for their own self-interest (i.e. not wanting to get sick of whatever diseases that patients bring in).
There are people with nutty ideas in every profession. That’s why it kills me when science deniers and anti-vaxxers cite one or two outlier studies as evidence, ignoring the vast preponderance of the peer-reviewed work in the field. You can find someone with a PhD or MD to support any position but that doesn’t make it valid.
@Sue22, agree, which is why that GIF posted earlier really rang true.
It seems really odd that anyone working in a medical care environment would resist getting all possible vaccines for diseases that they may be exposed to in such an environment. I would expect such people to be first in line for the vaccines, if only for their own self-interest (i.e. not wanting to get sick of whatever diseases that patients bring in).*
Wouldn’t you?
I’m also surprised by the numbers of Drs & nurses that smoke tobacco, although that number is smaller than it used to be.
Radiologists & techs who don’t use protection, mystify me as well.
Don’t they know how X-rays work?