When people don't vaccinate their kids

@romanigypsyeyes it was hard for me as well, because the pg groups that were attachment-parenting focused were often both anti-vax and anti-wohm, both problems in my case. PM me if you want some recommendations.

Meanwhile…

https://www.sacbee.com/news/politics-government/capitol-alert/article234231737.html

Wow, sad that people feel they can physically attack those they disagree with. I’m glad it was seen and the guy was criminally charged!

Just wow:

https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/health/officials-teen-at-dance-competition-in-arizona-had-measles/

We need to start prosecuting people who voluntarily do not vaccinate. I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again and again and again. You are endangering the health of the public.

If we can prosecute people for knowingly exposing others to HIV, we should be able to do the same to anti-vaxxers.

I had titers done for measles and have no immunity, despite having been immunized as a child, again in college, and again in my 30s.

In California news: A person who came in from New Zealand was infected with measles and exposed people in Disneyland, the Santa Monica pier, her hotel, etc. etc.

Shouldn’t proof of vaccination be required for anyone entering this country? A passport page showing vaccination history?

Some countries do have proof of vaccination requirements to enter the country. Yellow fever and malaria appear to get the most attention, but some others are mentioned for some countries (e.g. polio, meningitis).
https://www.who.int/ith/ith-country-list-new.pdf

https://www.bbc.com/news/business-49506011

Good start.

https://www.pennlive.com/news/2019/09/measles-infects-york-county-doctor-who-encourages-vaccination.html

“McCabe was vaccinated, and tests showed that she’d likely be immune to the virus, she said.”

This is a local story about a doctor, who was immunized, who still contracted the measles, presumably from another patient who was treated at the center a few weeks ago. Alarming.

An individual immunization does not foreclose the possibility of that individual catching the disease. EVERYONE being immunized protects oneself and everyone else. Vaccination is more of a public health solution than an individual solution.

Yes, some people do not become fully immune after vaccine, although they may get some resistance that reduces the severity of the infection.

Yep. Ok my immune system is whack, but I was immunized in Kindergarten; then I nevertheless got chicken pox (not measles) as a teen and then 20 years later, chicken pox again as an adult. Yipee. Now I’m worried I’m going to beat the odds and get it for a 3rd time. So, if there’s a measle-carrying person, despite the vaccine and booster, I’m now sure I’m done for.

You don’t get chickenpox from measles carriers. But that’s still sad that you had them twice. What you are more likely to get is shingles if you are exposed to chickenpox.

@MYOS1634, the chicken pox vaccine wasn’t licensed in the US until 1995 and not commonly given until a few years after that so I wonder if chicken pox was not one of the inoculations you received in kindergarten.

I have a kid with your kind of immune system who gets every weird disease-MRSA, whooping cough, influenza, pneumonia, and every type of funky infection, so I can understand your concern about the measles. At least being vaccinated reduces the severity of the disease if you do get it.

I was “immunized” thanks to a little sister. Apparently if another kid has it then you’re good to go :wink:
But yes I catch every little thing so measles is a concern.

If I were you, @MYOS1634 I’d either get a measles vaccination or the titers test. I’ve never heard that you get immunity because your sister had the measles.

This week in New York State, we have to ban from our schools any kids who have not been vaccinated. We have some very angry parents. (They have been warned since last year, but they just don’t want to vaccinate.) Makes for a tough morning of literally blocking the doors and turning families away!

Do you have measles in your school, or are they now banned just for being unvaccinated?

The issue is that you can’t wait till you have an outbreak.