When people don't vaccinate their kids

If anyone makes their decisions based upon correlations, here are some that should change what folks do (and related laws). There are some very high correlation rates.

http://tylervigen.com/page?page=1

We should probably import less oil from Norway, eat more munster cheese, not allow lawyers in NC, etc.

^^^ I can easily live with all of the above!

Ugh, made the mistake of posting on our state representative’s Facebook page when she complained about the state eliminating the religious exemption. All the crazies came out! I never learn…

Has anyone else been frustrated with the timing of some of the vaccinations? I paid close attention the meningitis vaccine after a friend lost his son to meningitis. They wanted my eldest to have it when he began high school (which to this lay person didn’t have any increased risk from middle school) and then to get a booster when he was in college. Well, by the time a kid is in college they are usually 18 and I don’t get a voice in their decision to get a booster - heaven forbid he would refuse at the time and still get meningitis. So with my doctors approval we waited until later in high school to give it. Same with the HPV vaccine. The recommendation was to give it to DD when she was preteens. At that time they didn’t know if a booster would be needed so again I felt that by the time she would be active and benefit from the vaccine she may or may not be protected without a booster that they hadn’t made up their minds on yet.

@dietz199 — I was curious about that first article you cited, that said people who get annual flu vaccination as children have a higher risk of flu as adults over age 50. I was especially curious about it because the recommendation to vaccinate kids came out during my children’s lifetime, and neither they nor any of their schoolmates are close to age 30, much less 50. It turns out that the study was based on a simulation. I’m sorry, but I just can’t see hanging my hat on that one.

^^^ As my Phd theoretical physicist SIL would say - all models are wrong, some models are useful.

in a physics model, you have far fewer variables than in a biological one.

Which ironically is why some folks are anti-vaxxers. Too many variables.

Well, I’m hoping they’ll all move out of Maine now…

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/14/magazine/can-i-get-my-anti-vaxx-sisters-kids-vaccinated.html this quote in particular:

“Unfortunately, anti-vaxxers have the epistemological equivalent of a drug-resistant infection; the condition is stubbornly unresponsive to treatment.”

Lethally well-put.

Just because of all these anti-vaxxers, I asked my internist if I should test my timers or get MMR vaccine even tho I had been told I suffered through each of those diseases as a child.

Just got my titer test & results and am immune to all 3–yay! That’s a relief!

Great! I was immune too.

I don’t think spacing out vaccines makes you an anti-vaxxer. That 2019 schedule is misleading anyway since it’s not like babies are getting HPV shots at the same time as the others.

I waited on Hep B for my daughters because it struck me as illogical that the youngest one “needed” it and the older two did not. It was just a government protocol that came out at a certain time and they wanted to vaccinate babies just after birth because they knew that the most vulnerable ones would likely not be back for a 2 month or 4 month pediatric visit. Our pediatrician agreed that that one could wait.

The CDC has issued a measles warning for those traveling to Europe.

https://www.fodors.com/news/news/the-cdc-has-a-warning-for-u-s-travelers-headed-to-europe

I got the adult MMR vaccine booster. Getting the titer would have been more expensive than just getting the vaccine and if I showed as not having immunity I would have had to pay anyway.

I got the titer and it shows I have good immunity after having had all the diseases in MMR as a young child. Sad and scary to have so many who don’t vaccinate and are causing these illnesses to spread.

https://www.cnn.com/2019/08/19/health/measles-uk-who-intl/index.html

Ack.

a little last minute because DD leaves Wednesday for her freshman year but we figured out last week that she had menangitis vaccinations but not the menangitis B, so she got that today. Better late than never!

I’ve left so many pregnancy groups on Facebook because I have a compulsive need to call out anti vaxxers and inevitably get into fights. I’ve looked for a pregnancy group that was anti vaxx free for over a week with no luck.

As much as I blame people for their stupidity, I blame politicians more. Religious and personal beliefs should’ve never been exceptions to vaccines. Legitimate health reasons only. We wouldn’t be in this mess if it wasn’t optional.

Poor kids. I remember having the mumps when I was twelve. It wasn’t any fun. And for men, there is the added bonus of sterility. Get vaccinated! There was no vaccine when I was a kid but I sure made sure my daughters were vaccinated.

When California got rid of religious and personal exemptions, the number of medical exemptions quadrupled in 2 years. Now they have to tighten up the regulations for that, and have a state public health board involved. Stupidity can be persistent!

It’s also been a disinformation campaign by the Russians for decades. They started a rumor in the 80’s that the US had created the AIDS virus to target gay and black people. Now they are pushing the anti-vax/“parental choice” bandwagon.