Sorry, bro, but low income countries cannot afford a ‘fool-proof’ design; only the US can. Much cheaper to ship vaccines and drugs in bulk.
Doesn’t MA have a state law that all college students must be vaccinated? (I seem to remember my kid having to obtain a signed vaccination record from her primary Doc prior to Frosh year to attend a school in MA.) If so, then this in on NE who failed to confirm vaccination status. (Or does MA have religious exemptions?)
MA has religious exemptions.
4 year old girl nearly killed, left blind by flu. Parents didn’t realize they had to get flu shots every season:
https://www.cnn.com/2020/01/11/health/flu-blinds-iowa-girl-eprise/index.html
I truly don’t understand how anyone can claim not to know that a flu shot is needed every fall just based on the sheer amount of advertising about it, but I’m also not saying the parents are lying.
With the exception of my SIL and niece who can’t get the flu shots for medical reasons, I’ve made it clear in no uncertain terms that people who aren’t up to date on vaccines, including the flu, are not welcome around us and the baby. Now that I’m getting into my third trimester, I’m going to be more strictly enforcing it.
I’m all for vaccinations but the flu shot is one of the more ineffective ones out there.
https://www.webmd.com/cold-and-flu/news/20190628/last-flu-seasons-vaccine-only-29-effective-cdc
Yup. And yet:
From the article I posted.
From the article you posted:
So nearly 50% effective through the worst of flu season. I’ll take that.
Even if it doesn’t protect against the specific strain, it significantly reduces the chance of complications and deaths from other strains.
The flu shot is ineffective narrative is one of the reasons that flu vax rates decrease.
How do you think schools ‘confirm’ vaccinations? For one of my kids, the school needed ‘proof’ of an MMR (nothing else). This was taken from the little card that I was given when she was born and that the doc used to add vaccinations as they were given. I could have jotted down a date on that card at any time during those 18 years.
My other daughter was adopted and came with a vaccination record. Her pediatrician looked at it and said “hmm, no” and started everything over again. However, that record she came with was perfectly legal and she could have shown that at college registration and passed right through. No one knows if any of those vaccinations were effective. Her school required more than the MMR (don’t remember exactly what), but all they did was look on the card. The nurse did comment “Oh, you’ve had a LOT of vaccines!” because the form lists all the ones the pediatrician ignored too.
@twoinanddone doesn’t your pediatrician provide a printed vaccination list, so you don’t have to copy the card?
Also, I am disappointed that the measure in NJ to remove religion as a reason for vax exemption has been stalled (although recent reports indicate it may soon pass).
Every newspaper article on this always cites the fact that “almost every major religion supports vaccination”. I really wish there was some way schools could quiz parents claiming a religious exemption. “Okay Mrs. Smith, please tell me where you worship and provide some documentation of the Church of Flying Spaghetti Monster’s rationale for not vaccinating its members” 
I believe the FSM religion wholeheartedly endorses vaccines.
Huh, so when I googled FSM religion, I found out that the Church of The Flying Spaghetti Monster is a real, legitimate religion, as much as any other.
Learn something new all the time on CC.
Poor research and reporting, but not surprising… But more importantly, no major religion prohibits vaccinations, so there is no reason for states to hold up the correct legislation.
If Deep Blue California and Deep Red Mississippi* can agree on vaccination policy (no religious exemptions), I don’t understand the hold up with the other states.
Other states that have withdrawn the religious exemption are NY, ME, & WV. Bravo!
https://www.ncsl.org/research/health/school-immunization-exemption-state-laws.aspx
Religion has very little to do with objection to vaccination. Two places I’ve lived with the highest rates of non-vaccination are Boulder, CO and Orange County CA. Those people do not use religion as a reason, but rather big pharma, chemicals in the vaccines, autism as the reasons. In Cal we lived about 2 blocks away from the Sears pediatric office. Never would I have considered using him as a pediatrician.
@surfcity my kids had the vaccination cards for 16+ years. When we moved to Florida I had to go to the dept of health to have their years of vaccinations transferred to a special Florida form before they could start school. They didn’t start putting the vaccines into a computer program in Colorado until my kids were in high school, so we used the cards. I could have filled in the card without actually getting a vaccine and no one would know, and any of the vaccines could have been diluted or inactive and there is no way for a college to know that.
I always thought the same thing about the cards. My kids, ages 23-31, all had them and they were never, ever questioned. They were required in a wide variety of circumstances, too.
My kids had to have their vaccination records sent directly from their pediatrician. I didn’t think anyone did those vaccination cards any more.
@dentmom4 - sort of. I think that it was invented to show that anything could be a “religion” and should not get various special treatment in a country with separation of Church and State. If googling shows that it’s as legitimate as any other religion, then they have proven their point…
@dentmom4, as a devout Pastafarian of the Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster I say unto thee, “Ramen! May you be touched by his noodly appendages.”
The FSM church has made a public statement on vaccination. It reads in part,
For a history of the religion,
https://allthatsinteresting.com/pastafarianism
@fretfulmother @Sue22 interesting reads. H knew all about it.
Kaylee Roberts, 16, died after a week with the flu over Christmas break.
She was posting selfie videos just hours before her body failed.
She did not have the flu shot.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/01/17/health/flu-ohio-teen-kaylee-roberts-death-eprise/index.html
^^^I heard about her on the news. Tragic.
Per current reports, The OC has a 95+% vaccination rate, which exceeds the state average (and meets CDC’s recommendations).
PEOPLE- we are discussing 2 different topics- 1- parents who WON’S immunize their young children to ONE TIME shots to prevent MMR, which are PREVENTABLE highly contagious killers, and 2- those who dont get annual FLU shots.
Science has proven that immunization saves lives. Not only those who receive immunizations, but others in their communities.