<p>Prediction - next USNWR rankings (due out in mid-August or perhaps a few weeks later), HYP becomes HPC!</p>
<p>I was accepted EA and would love this to happen, and I love the school, but I don’t predict Chicago surpassing either H,Y,or P. At least not in the next few years. I do, however, think that the tie between Columbia and Chicago will be broken, with Chicago on top.</p>
<p>IMO, Chicago appeals to a different kind of kid. Many of them are not interested in the other schools mentioned.</p>
<p>Yeah or about rankings</p>
<p>UChicago passed up HYP in about 1893.</p>
<p>The University of Chicago has long been the most intellectual university in the country. Graduates of UChicago win more Nobel Prizes per capita than graduates of HYP.</p>
<p>Any serious intellectual or intelligent person knows this. I’m not speaking of uninformed high school students who sound as though they are trying out for the cheerleading team. Alfred North Whitehead, a Harvard professor, compared UChicago with Ancient Athens. Harvey Mansfield, another Harvard professor, in 2013 reiterated UChicago’s supremacy.</p>
<p><a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/university-chicago/1464425-harvey-mansfield-uchicago-more-intellectual-than-harvard.html[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/university-chicago/1464425-harvey-mansfield-uchicago-more-intellectual-than-harvard.html</a></p>
<p>If you want to be silly and shallow and uneducated and poorly read, go to HYP. Otherwise, choose the best and go with UChicago.</p>
<p>If you want to see a deer in the headlights look, just say the word Plato to a HYP student and see the blank look you get. They’re too busy watching MTV, according to their admissions office.</p>
<p>But the good news is UChicago is rising in popularity MUCH faster than any other school in the country. Over the past two years, Harvard’s applications have increased by 75. UChicago’s increased by 11,000.</p>
<p>I would say that many in the know would be thinking when will HYP break into the realm of Chicago in terms of being pound for pound among the intellectually rigorous realm.</p>
<p>Is this thread even necessary? </p>
<p>The OP reminds me of kenyapride (who, fortunately, got banned), inciting insecurity among posters on this board with the goal of making this school look bad. There is no need to respond to this thread any more. Please.</p>
<p>Lol at people quoting harvard people saying chicago is more ‘intellectual’. That doesn’t mean smarter, or better. They themselves say harvard doesn’t want to be as intellectual. Sheesh.</p>
<p>“If you want to be silly and shallow and uneducated and poorly read, go to HYP. Otherwise, choose the best and go with UChicago.”</p>
<p>I get that this is hyperbole, but yikes.</p>
<p>As someone who’s idea of a wild party is discussing modern French philosophy, I know a lot of intellectual heavyweights, and they would have qualms with what you said. For fear of blasphemy I think I ought not say it, but there are blisteringly smart people who go to colleges that are not ever remotely famous.</p>
<p>Do I believe that Chicago is the best school in the world? I wholeheartedly do. But I understand that there is a legitimate argument for other schools, and for the nonexistence of one singular “best” college.</p>
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You have to be kidding me. I know Chicago is a great school, but making statements like this just makes you look ludicrous.</p>
<p>Yeah that’s ridiculous to be honest I hope the people there aren’t as snotty or stuck-up as some posters make them seem :/</p>
<p>Having visited UChicago, CC in no way represents the students. In all seriousness though, UChicago doesn’t deserve to be ranked higher than Harvard/Princeton because the caliber of the students is indisputably higher, even if not by much. The education between the four schools is similar in quality but of a different sort.</p>
<p>I mean, we might legitimately surpass Yale (have we already?) but HP will remain on top, and they should</p>
<p>Yeah I agree, when I visited I learned that Chicago’s representation on CC isn’t indicative of its student body, thankfully. I feel like a lot of the people posting things like this just need the ego boost.</p>
<p>The OP wanted just wanted to ■■■■■ and incite people, move along now…it’s not as if this matters either way…</p>
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<p>While I do understand what you’re saying, how would you argue that the students at Y are any worse than those at P (or H for that matter). Looking at all kinds of objective data, from acceptance rates and SAT/GPA ranges, to prestigious scholarships (especially Rhodes), how can one come to the conclusion that Yale is any worse than Princeton? In fact how can one come to any conclusion other than one asserting Yale’s superiority in comparison to Princeton as far as student quality goes. In the same vein one could argue that, at least for the class of 2017, UChicago compares well (and often exceeds HYP) in the same criteria, and this would be disputable, but how does Y not come out as at least second to Harvard (and maybe MIT)…</p>
<p>As important as having a high quality student body is, I’d say its effect saturates when you get to the top 10 (of which HYPSM and UChicago are certainly well-rooted members) or so. At that point, standard of education and intangibles like fit become far more important than a difference of 1-2% in acceptance rates or 10 points in the SAT.</p>
<p>Seriously, love my alma mater, and neither know nor care if it’s going to make it into HYP. But anyone who says HYP aren’t great schools is kidding him or herself.</p>
<p>When they establish an engineering school…</p>
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And why?
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<li><p>If you added Chicago, Stanford, and MIT to the mix, you could call them CHYMPS. Or SCHYMP. Maybe PHYMSC. None of those are quite as evocative as “HYP” or “HYPS,” but they’re not bad. (If you added Rice, you could call them “SCHRYMP (with Rice).”) </p></li>
<li><p>The fundamental reason why Chicago is unlikely to overtake HYPS in the short run is that their endowments are roughly 3-5 times that of Chicago, both in absolute terms and on a per-student basis. That’s not to say they are anything like 3-5 times better than Chicago, or that they spend 3-5 times more than Chicago on their undergraduate students’ educations. But if you spend any time at one of them and at Chicago, it’s not hard to tell they are wealthier institutions and that some of that wealth trickles down to students in a beneficial way.</p></li>
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<p>According to the official website of the Nobel Prize [Nobel</a> Laureates and Research Affiliations](<a href=“http://www.nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/lists/universities.html]Nobel”>http://www.nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/lists/universities.html)</p>
<p>Chicago has 15 professors who received the award while they were at Chicago. Harvard on the other hand has 34.
Clearly Harvard is not in Chicago’s intellectual league.
(And that my friends is what you call sarcasm)</p>
<p>Also, in case you couldn’t tell, the OP is ■■■■■■■■ you!</p>