<p>Engineering is great when you're fresh out of college. But it has a ceiling.</p>
<p>Does anyone have a link for UCLA? I'd be really interested in seeing how Biz-Econ majors fare in the job markt.</p>
<p>my engineering friends are starting at 65,000 or above</p>
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<p>I disagree. Engineers don't have to stay as engineers. They have a lot more opportunities than the usual liberal arts majors IMO.</p>
<p>I'd like to add that liberal arts majors have a lot more opportunities than you would think.</p>
<p>I am about to leave my first post-college $40K "humanities" job for a job in Silicon Valley that will earn me a significant raise (plus stocks, plus bonus!)... all the programmers and techies need "idea" people who can think like consumers (web 2.0!) and dream up stuff. To think my parents thought my English major could only get me a $25K job in Manhattan...</p>
<p>This is the link to Swarthmore's class of '07 post-graduation plans. Note that not all plans are listed here. Grads are voluntarily submitting their plans and needed to do that by a certain date. Some, including my procrastinating S, didn't get a roundtuit. ;)</p>
<p>wow, i would have thought swarthmore would have more of the IB, Consulting career people.</p>
<p>The son of a friend who graduated from "no name State University" got a job right out of college with a national car leasing company. The other day I was talking kids to a lawyer in DC. All of 4 kids graduated or were attending Ivies...he said that his Ivy grad son got a job at a national car leasing company. It was the same national car leasing company as my friend's son...sounded like essentially the same job, with degrees from VERY different universities.</p>
<p>I tend to think that where you get your undergraduate degree is pretty much meaningless to employers providing you have the same work ethic and other similar qualities as those who attend "prestigious" universities.</p>
<p>My opinion:</p>
<p>Your undergrad degree matters if you are aiming for a REAL IB job or Top Management Consulting firm, when you are in college or 3 years within your graduation date. </p>
<p>For most positions and careers, a prestigious school gives you a good work ethic, a lot of confidence in yourself because you "made it", and an understanding of your strength and weaknesses, while a weaker school usually does not.</p>
<p>Are there any of these sites for more liberal arts schools, like Claremont McKenna College, Haverford, etc? Thanks.</p>
<p>Good to know I came up with a good idea for once.</p>
<p>Look at the Swarthmore page.</p>
<p>Some guy gets his degree in economics from Swarthmore and becomes a fisherman.</p>
<p>Fishermans make A LOT of money surprisingly. Someone told me that fishermans make like 100,000+ a year. IMO, that figure seems to be off. But that's just what I heard.</p>
<p>Lots of posters are confusing starting salary at 21 with average income. No, you aren't likely going to be making as much as your parents in your first job, no matter what school you went to. </p>
<p>I think this data provides great evidence that where you go to school is not particularly relevant at all. As for those that a school ranked high in a newspaper poll means you've 'made it' or gives you confidence, or teaches work ethic, is incorrect. I went to a state school, did PhD at a top 10 and taught there, then taught at an Ivy and now a state school again. Don't buy the hype. It's completely nothing more than that. Kids work hard or slack off at every institution. The faculty, texts, materials are all the same at these schools. Most employers recruit from most schools. Yeah its a bit of a high ,and I'm sure your parents are proud of you, but beyond that, its really NOT worth $50k a year for the bumper sticker. No one else cares. Really.</p>
<p>UW Madison Biz and Eng UG</p>
<p>UW-Madison</a> School of Business - Business Career Center</p>
<p>I don't know which field you got your PhD in, but the math/science/engineering curriculum at top schools are definitely not the same material as a weaker school. I never taught at a college level, but I've taken enough summer classes to know the difference. What I meant by "you made it", is the feeling that you have for the rest of your life that you can do anything because you were challenged and survived a very tough curriculum in college.</p>
<p>Wow, I never knew Wisconsin didn't have AE. Or is it part of another college?</p>
<p>-nvm, my mistake, lol</p>
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my engineering friends are starting at 65,000 or above
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<p>Most of my engineering friends went back for their MBA.</p>
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<p>Fishing is the most dangerous job in the US, and it would not surprise me if salaries approached that amount for those who have to stay on boats for long periods of time. If the supply of people willing to work that job is low, the wages will tend to be high.</p>
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For most positions and careers, a prestigious school gives you a good work ethic, a lot of confidence in yourself because you "made it", and an understanding of your strength and weaknesses, while a weaker school usually does not.
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How does a prestigious school, even remotely, give you a good work ethic? People at a prestigious school might have a good work ethic, but the school certainly didn't give it to them.</p>
<p>Going to a <em>hard</em> school might give a work ethic, this is something entirely different from prestigious. MIT grads undoubtedly have a better work ethic than Harvard grads (in terms of time spent studying per week) - yet I doubt many would say MIT is more prestigious.</p>
<p>Anything like this for UIUC engineering grads?</p>