<p>No architecture at UW Madison. UWM go all that stuff.</p>
<p>I think studying business/management without a technical background has a ceiling whereas engineering (unless you decide to be and engineer for the rest of your life) does not. From what I've seen, a relatively small percentage of people who take business-related courses in college actually end up building a successful company.</p>
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<p>Mr. Payne,</p>
<p>I think your example of Harvard and MIT is not the type of comparison we are talking about. People are equally successful coming from MIT or Harvard. Technical schools are always going to be more rigorous than nontechnical schools, when they have similar student bodies. And I'm not sure I could say Harvard is more prestigious than MIT. In many technical circles, MIT, Caltech and Stanford are seeing as more prestigious. </p>
<p>As for work ethic, I know when I was in high school, I managed to graduate in the top 5% of my high school(HS SAT average 1050), got very nice scores for everything without much studying at all, this is true for many of my friends who went to top schools. Most of us were in technical disciplines and had to really learn how to study and compete in a environment filled with overachievers. (SAT average 1350+)
I also knew a few people from high school who went into some of the lower ranked schools(SAT average around 1100), having equal credentials as we do, they seemed to have cruised through college, never really developing the study habits necessary, they ended up with great GPAs but it is essentially a slightly harder version of our high school, and they suffer once they get to grad school. This is the work ethic that I'm talking about.</p>
<p>Just browsed through a few of these surveys - interesting data + awesome question OP.</p>
<p>I think most of them underestimate annual compensation, especially in the financial services sector, because annual bonuses are so important. Clearly, the just-graduated student has no idea what his/her bonus will be, so they can't report it on the survey, but in investment banking the bonus can be as big as, if not bigger than, the annual salary. Similarly, tech companies do performance-based options or stock grants, and a number of other industries have significant (although not finance-sized) bonuses at the entry level.</p>
<p>UVA College of Arts and Sciences:
<a href="http://www.career.virginia.edu/students/clas/first_destinations.pdf%5B/url%5D">http://www.career.virginia.edu/students/clas/first_destinations.pdf</a></p>
<p>It seems like Carnegie is pretty impressive in the job placement field.</p>
<p>I was slightly dissapointed with uchicago...</p>
<p>Chicago has no engineering and doesn't have much preprofessionalism in general. It's graduate earnings are comparable with Georgetown's liberal arts college.</p>
<p>Admittedly I don't know much about the professional world and salaries, but shouldn't ibankers and some marketing people skew the mean salary? Maybe no?</p>
<p>Isn't chicago supposed to be really good at econ?</p>
<p>yes....it is....why?</p>
<p>In what respect were you dissappointed in Chicago?</p>
<p>In a political perspective, the Ivy League schools are extremely well represented.</p>
<p>I have analyzed candidates for the past few elections, and the recurring theme is an identity with Harvard or Yale since George H.W. Bush.</p>
<p>CLINTON: (Wellesley/Yale)
OBAMA: (Occidental-Columbia/Harvard)
McCAIN: (USNA)
KERRY: (Harvard/BC)
BUSH W: (Yale,Harvard)
GORE: (Harvard)
CLINTON, BILL: (U Ark/Yale)
DOLE: (U Kansas/various law schools)
BUSH, HW: (Yale)
DUKAKIS: (Swarthmore/Harvard)</p>
<p>Only Dole and McCain have no relationship to Harvard or Yale.</p>
<p>Before the above-mentioned people you had many unrelated to the Ivies.</p>
<p>MONDALE (MacAlester-U Minn/U Minn)
REAGAN (Eureka)
CARTER (Ga Tech-USNA)
McGOVERN (Dakota Wesleyan/Northwestern)
NIXON (Whitter/Duke)
HUMPHREY (U Minn/LSU)</p>
<p>Do we see a trend here?</p>
<p>Has the vlue of the degree increased? Especially for those with high political aspirations?</p>
<p>I seriously doubt it. Very limited sample with much overlap. Bush family, Clinton family. You could add LBJ (SWT) and then back to the IVy with JFK.</p>
<p>barrons, any numbers for Wisconsin's College of Letters and Sciences?</p>
<p>Any more, guys? Keep 'em coming. I'm going to look for Yale, Harvard, Brown, Dartmouth next.</p>
<p>Not that i know about</p>
<p>I was disappointed with the fact that such a large percentage were unsure of their aspirations after college and said they were just starting. Also, the data isn't as specific as the other tables. You are right about the fact that they dont' have any engineering, I guess I overlooked that aspect....</p>
<p>Didn't Hilary go to Stanford and Bill went to Georgetown?</p>