<p>Why would you apply to a school simply because of what sports conference it's in?</p>
<p>"Take a look to the left column on your computer screen -> Look at the TOP FORUM subjects -> There is only one so-called "athletic conference" listed there, in fact only one group of schools listed there, the Ivy League and then every other college in America."</p>
<p>LOL...Well, bec there isnt any other athletic conference which has all of it's members in the top 20 USNEWS ranking system. It's that simple. Now, you guys should get over yourselves as IT IS INDEED, JUST AN ATHLETIC CONFERENCE. </p>
<p>"Why would you apply to a school simply because of what sports conference it's in?"</p>
<p>Because they're only high school seniors who might not even know that Ivy League isn't that special compared to the non ivy top schools. As we all can see, none of the ivy league school has 100% or 99% freshmen retention rate. This is because those high school seniors finally realized that Ivy League schools are just like any of the top 20 schools in the nation. But of course, those ppl who're in the Ivy League would always try to convince themselves and others that they are the elite of the elite...but for all we know, HYPSM are the only elite of the elite. There rest are subjective.</p>
<p>^^^ you chose quite an apt moniker.</p>
<p>I was going to take you a bit seriously (even though you crassly just want an ivy lottery ticket), because you seemed to know at least a little about Brown, but then I saw a crosspost, where there are so many things that don't go with someone looking at Brown. Why the two posts that don't make sense? </p>
<p>Hi, I'm a junior looking at colleges. It's kind of confusing, so I need guidance from everyone here. What colleges would fit me with these stats and interests:
GPA: 3.95 Weighted (school doesn't do UW)
ACT: Projected 29
ECs:Varsity Football 3 years, Basketball 1 year, Spanish Tutor 1 year, International Relations Club 1 year, Tech Club 1 year, National Honor Society
Service: 100 hours volunteered
Weather: From Illinois so I can handle the cold, but I prefer warm
Atmosphere: I want some school spirit!
Size: As long as it isn't 4000 and less I'm fine with it.
Major: I want to major in biology
Cost: Less than $25,000 or it can be higher if generous with aid or scholarships</p>
<p>"As we all can see, none of the ivy league school has 100% or 99% freshmen retention rate. This is because those high school seniors finally realized that Ivy League schools are just like any of the top 20 schools in the nation."</p>
<p>Actually, Yale's freshman retention rate is 99%.</p>
<p>(source: collegeboard.com)</p>
<p>"I think after 2009 admissions stats came in, it was Harvard, but don't quote me on that."</p>
<p>Harvard accepted about 7% of last year's applicants. This year, there are more than 7,000 more applicants than last year, and Harvard plans to accept fewer students. You do the math....</p>
<p>"Cornell over 20% acceptance.."
That number is an aggregate of seven separate colleges with separate admissions pools.
The rate for the Arts & Sciences college is about 18%.
Most of these colleges offer majors and programs of study that are not available at those other universities.
Generally, for each college how easy it is for YOU may depend on how well you match up with their program.</p>
<p>Penn and Columbia also have separate colleges where the odds may not be completely identical, depending on the applicant and the college.</p>
<p>Brown parent,
I don't want an Ivy lottery ticket. I doubt I will even apply to one, but if I did Brown would indeed represent me. Long story, I'm at a private school where there are few activities to participate in. If it was up to me I would be writing for the newspaper. I am a writer on the side. We don't have a newspaper or any activity that really allows me to show who I am. I want to be a podiatrist in order to help people, but I also want to write novels in my spare time. Sorry if the two posts are confusing.</p>
<p>brown received the greatest increase in applications in the ivy league this year and will have an acceptance closer to 10%</p>
<p>moreover brown is notorious for admitting students who are not only solid academically, but will thrive and make good use of the open curriculum. it is clearly one of the hardest schools to get into in the country</p>
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I want to be a podiatrist in order to help people, but I also want to write novels in my spare time.
This combination of interests will make a great application essay... with footnotes.... (sorry, couldn't resist :D)</p>
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<p>LOL... very witty!</p>
<p>If you just want to get in and you have a science background, apply to cornell, or penn engineering engineering (especially if you are a girl, female acceptance rate at cornell is aprox 40%, penn is probably more). If you want to apply to the arts+science school, then cornell/penn/columbia/dmouth/brown are similar enough that you wont see a difference.</p>
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<p>don't apply to Cornell bc it's the easiest. that's just retarded. apply to a school because you would enjoy going there. so reseach all the ivies and select the one you would prefer being at.</p>
<p>Good advice. I guess if I get into an Ivy by some miracle I might as well want to go there. Actually, Cornell and Brown are two schools that fit me. I hear they are the "easiest" of the Ivies, but that translates to very tough instead of no chance.</p>
<p>Weren't the Paul Bunyan tales written by a podiatrist?</p>
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Weren't the Paul Bunyan tales written by a podiatrist?
Yes indeed -- A Corn-ell graduate, if memory serves. ;)</p>
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The Ivy League is an athletic conference. I am constantly baffled by the obsession with a league that just happens to have many great universities. Other athletic conferences have comparable institutions. Why not "Which is the easiest elite university to get into?"
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<p>This is the classic rant from those suffering from Ivy envy. The term Ivy League has become synonymous with "prestige", "quality", "influence" and "elite" in academics. It is about the Ancient Eight, the 8 oldest private schools in the country that happen also to be among the most selective. It is not about the athletic conference so your "baffling" is absolutely ridiculous.</p>
<p>^ My son will be attending Columbia in the fall, so there is no "envy." He happened to like the combination of the core curriculum and NYC, not to mention that Columbia is a fine university. He also liked the University of Chicago, which is in a different athletic conference but is in no respect inferior to Columbia. He didn't like Stanford, but one could make a compelling argument that Stanford (also in a different athletic conference) has out-Ivied the Ivies for years now.</p>
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This is the classic rant from those suffering from Ivy envy. The term Ivy League has become synonymous with "prestige", "quality", "influence" and "elite" in academics. It is about the Ancient Eight, the 8 oldest private schools in the country that happen also to be among the most selective. It is not about the athletic conference so your "baffling" is absolutely ridiculous.
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<p>The Ivies make up less than half of the top twenty or so. There is no difference between the prestige of Stanford and Yale or Penn and Duke or Brown and Northwestern. Still baffled.</p>