<p>You Apple fanboys are funny. Have fun dropping another 2k on a new model when youre in grad school. The lack of moveable parts on Apple Computers is unacceptable. A "computer" is supposed to be a compendium of movable, upgradeable parts, not a fully standardized non upgradeable mess that you cant build yourself.</p>
<p>I can upgrade the hard drive and ram on my macbook, which is about all you can upgrade anyway on most PC laptops. Plus, they even make it easy - it's only 3-4 screws to take out to access the ram and hard drive. It doesn't even void your warranty.</p>
<p>Vyse,</p>
<p>Find me a laptop that's more upgradeable than the MacBook Pro.</p>
<p>Otherwise, you're just being silly.</p>
<p>Why do you need movable parts? I don't understand what you mean by that.</p>
<p>Apple parts are only compatible with Apple parts. My old laptop is a slew of different parts Ive upgraded as necessary. My case is the same one I used when i first bought it, but Ive changed processors, MOBOs, PSUs, RAM quantities, HDDs, as needed to continue to run all the latest apps efficiently</p>
<p>Except it's not true anymore. Perhaps the older ibooks were that way, but the newer macbooks are fairly good in that regard. You can use standard PC notebook ram and notebook hard drives to upgrade. </p>
<p>You have to use apple power supplies, motherboards, etc., but that's not unusual for laptops. Have you ever tried to buy replacement motherboards or power supplies for a PC laptop? They're nearly impossible to get. And I have yet to see a modern laptop with user-upgradable processor - even if you happen to be extremely lucky enough to have one with pin sockets (99.9% of laptop cpus being soldered on), the chances of being compatible either electrically or with the very customized firmware found in PC laptops, means upgrading a laptop's processor is virtually impossible.</p>
<p>In summary, apple laptops are basically just as upgradable as other PC laptops. The only thing they lack are PCMCIA slots, which are a good riddance anyways.</p>
<p>Actually...no.</p>
<p>Apple's laptops can use a variety of RAM, hard drives, and nowadays processors.</p>
<p>Most people will never ever ever upgrade anything in a laptop outside of RAM and maybe the hard drive. What brand laptop are you using that you were actually able to upgrade so much?</p>
<p>Interesting. Perhaps Im not up to date on customizability in apple products. however, I still think theyre overpriced. NewEgg has tons of laptops more powerful than the 17" macbook Pro. the one Im ordering is more powerful, and costs $300 less...after the apple student discount. Itd be $500 before discount.</p>
<p>What about the service? Can you just walk into any store and have it serviced? What brand RAM and mobo? </p>
<p>What's the warranty like?</p>
<p>Included software?</p>
<p>Actually, Apple's included warranty kind of sucks. It's only for 90 days unless you purchase AppleCare but the Genius Bar more than makes up for that.</p>
<p>Most included warranties pretty much blow these days...</p>
<p>actually, the included apple warranty is for one year.</p>
<p>Hmm...I'm torn on Mac vs. PC for my new college laptop. I really do need something reliable, esp. if it's got schoolwork on it...if it dies, I die ;). </p>
<p>At the same time, Macs = sooo expensive. And also, yes it does take time to re-learn. I mean I know some people are like, oh five minutes. Yeah...nooo...I'm really PC savvy, hard-earned from an entire life on them (from playing Dos games when I was like 3 to Windows Vista, haha), not because I'm a technical whiz. I seriously doubt I could transition all my PC skills to Mac /that/ fast...or fast enough at all for it not to be inconvenient.</p>
<p>Are there any PCs that are known to be as solid as Macs? Like I don't care about costumizing them, whatever...I just need the most durable, longest lasting computer I can get. I can't imagine what it would be like if I lost notes, papers, or the computer didn't work at critical times like, oh, a couple hours before the due date...haha.</p>
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<p>Not really. Compare the Macbook with other laptops of similar build. The price differential is small or non-existent. </p>
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<p>Lenovo.</p>
<p>my dad wants to get me a laptop that has thumbprint recognition. smart idea?</p>
<p>I've seen a lot of people with those, but they seem to be largely ignored by consumers.</p>
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<p>OK, for all you Macbook Pro users- Glossy screen or Matte screen? Which do you prefer and why?</p>
<p>Matte >>> glossy. My eyes hate the glossy screens. Probably because I'm old.</p>
<p>Quick question...(I'm pretty much computer retarded so pardon my techy terms)</p>
<p>You know those camera cards. Well do the mac laptops have a place where you can just stick the card in and load the pictures like my pc laptop does?</p>
<p>No, but the little add-on card is only like...$30. I have one and it works fine.</p>