<p>The OP is entitled to ask whatever question he wants without being lambasted by Columbia alums. That’s my [unsolicited] two cents.</p>
<p>But anyway, you asked for Ivies, and programs at Ivies, that are compatible with your current interests. Penn has the Huntsman Program in International Affairs and Business. You’d graduate with two degrees, a BA in International Affairs from the College of Arts and Sciences and a BS in Econ from Wharton (which is arguably the best undergraduate business school). Study abroad is a mandatory part of the program, as is a strong track record with languages. As you are already fluent in Russian, I think your application would actually have a leg-up in the admissions process, which is highly selective. The program takes something like 40 kids a year. There is one additional supplemental essay for kids applying to Huntsman rather than just one of Penn’s undergraduate schools.</p>
<p>I know Huntsman isn’t exactly International Relations, but it seems on track with your interests anyway and Penn has Philly and about 10,000 undergrads, both of which fit your criteria. Hope this helps and good luck with everything!</p>
<p>Was it not your argument that Columbia was somehow not general or not cliche? The point was that I was afraid Columbia was somehow too unique, and I found it it was. In the sense that it was a better teaching/learning environment than other schools I visited.</p>
<p>What is a ‘united feel’?</p>
<p>Travelbug - is the OP entitled to call someone douchy? Say that he wants to commit suicide? Though Huntsman is a good program, I had not thought about it. Thank you for offering that advice. Admission though is well - very difficult, and I know you are aware of this. I am curious why the OP has not posted similar threads at other Ivies yet; it does seem odd. Would you not agree travelbug that he seems to be unfairly singling out the Columbia thread; only to be dismissive and insulting?</p>
<p>To be honest, I only really skimmed through the thread before posting this morning. I would agree with you, however, that a certain amout of decorum should be used everywhere- yes, even online- and that therefore the OP is partially at fault for the tone of this thread. I’m sorry if it appears that I took sides! I didn’t mean to insult anyone, and think Columbia is a great fit for certain students, just like any other school. I only thought that Huntsman might make a good addition to a list of undergrad IR/econ programs and perhaps should’ve kept my [unsolicited] two cents to myself. Best wishes to everybody!</p>
<p>It is tough for admissions, Huntsman that is.</p>
<p>Columbia is a ‘hub’ for IR theory, and for international affairs, and for future diplomats. You should consider any one of these programs, on top of what I have already sent about what you can study as an undergrad already - </p>
<p>5 Year BA/MIA program with SIPA, probably a top 3 International Affairs school in the country. You do so by going undergrad to columbia college or seas, and in your junior year you begin talking about what you need to do, and your senior year supposing you are in good standing, you submit an application in your fall semester to SIPA. It’s the kind of program that if you’re close - you stand a pretty good shot of being admitted.</p>
<p>5 Year BA/MA program with Sciences Po in France to study usually something to do with international or transnational governance.</p>
<p>SIPA/SAIS/WW school/Fletcher/Walsh - are generally considered the 5 best international affairs schools in the country. Of which only Walsh and WW have undergraduate components. SAIS has a 5 year program with JHU undergrad, just like SIPA. SIPA oversees most of the area studies departments of Columbia, and many faculty who work at SIPA teach courses in various departments that columbia undergrads take. Including folks like Robert Jervis, who is a titan in IR theory. Plus you have folks like Kofi Annan and the likes who take over as visiting profs here and there, so you have a great array of igo battle-tested characters teaching you.</p>
<p>I have always and only taken exception with you calling it IR when I gather you are referring to something quite different.</p>
<p>I’ll be honest, I don’t want to specify it as IR or IA or w/e. As you know, I don’t know which EXACT field I am into. More policy, though. Would that be an International Affairs or FOreign Policy Field?</p>
<p>Does that SIPA plan mean that after senior year you go to SIPA for a year and then get the masters?</p>
<p>so policy is called by different names but in IGO world it is usually called international affairs. if you go more dept of state, you at times will here foreign policy more often as the term. international affairs is the more overarching term for international policy making and bodies.</p>
<p>yeah you get a master’s in international affairs after just one year at SIPA. so you spend 5 years and get two degrees.</p>
<p>^ Some school’s websites have department pages, where they explain the department’s mission, requirements, classes, etc. There’s also usually a section with professor email addresses. Contact them if you have more questions I did that when I was considering schools and it helped.</p>
<p>most of the ivies will have something or another, but none have top flight IA programs outside of columbia and princeton.</p>
<p>the huntsmann program is solid because of the wharton connection, i think someone mentioned brown. harvard and yale have good programs - the international studies program at yale is good, if even it is not quite the level of woody and sipa. hks at harvard, i am not familiar with its ugrad components, but overall hks is known more for its domestic stuff than its international; yet i mean it is harvard they have so many people there. and i think cornell has one too.</p>
<p>but when it comes to straight international affairs it is columbia and princeton kind of on top with their full out schools dedicated to policy.</p>
I did that when I was considering schools and it helped.</p>