@ReallyOk I agree with you 100%. @ClarinetDad16 your list, imo, is very outdated. Tufts is definitely leagues above some of the schools you mention it to be peers with. I appreciate your opinion, though!
Not in football though. In fact, I think NESCAC specifically bars members from playing out-of-conference football games, and they may be the only NCAA conference that does this.
Anyway there is no room for any out-of-conference games. NESCAC has 10 football teams (the 11th member, Connecticut College, doesnât play football). So each team has 9 in-conference opponents. But NESCAC only has an 8-game football schedule (probably the shortest in NCAA). So there isnât even enough room in the schedule to play every in-conference team, much less out-of-conference teams.
@ap012199
You believe Tuftsâ peers to be schools like Northwestern, Brown, Cornell, Hopkins, Rice, and WashU âŠ
Sorry but they are not Tufts peers.
Please rank the schools in the Boston area for us - where does Tufts rank in that group?
No, apparently NEWMAC plans to introduce a 7-game football schedule (8 weeks with one bye) for 2017. So MIT played 10 games in 2016, but will have just 7 games in 2017. As with NESCAC, there will be no out-of-conference games.
http://www.cuacardinals.com/sports/fball/2015-16/releases/20160202pxpndo
@ClarinetDad16 As someone with no dog in the fight in terms of Tufts, I think itâs riding that line between Northwestern/Rice/WashU and, to use a Boston example you used, Brandies. I donât think it would be fair to put Tufts categorically in either.
For some of the peers you listed, I think they match. For example, Iâd agree with Rochester and Tufts as peers. I wouldnât agree with Wake Forest, Bucknell, or Colgate.
It also depends on the subject. For a liberal arts subject, I would put them in that higher tier. Others, likely not.
@PengsPhils what criteria are you using to tier Tufts?
Itâs hard to place emphasis on USNWR as it is breaking out LACs from National Universities. Especially since Tufts in particular is somewhat a hybrid between the two categories.
Outside the geography there would seem to be a lot of similarities between Wake Forest and TuftsâŠ
And from the (lack of) economic diversity here are some Tufts peers on this list:
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/01/18/upshot/some-colleges-have-more-students-from-the-top-1-percent-than-the-bottom-60.html?_r=0
Notably, by the single metric of SAT scores, Tufts aligned with schools such as Penn, Northwestern and Duke even c.1960:
@merc81, so all in Tier 3. Is there score data associated with each tier?
@Chembiodad : You can find that information in the original Life article:
For an accurate perspective you may need to adjust for recalibration (1995) and other more recent factors related to SAT scoring. You may also want to note some of the observations by posters on the linked CC topic.
@ClarinetDad16 I would rank the Boston area schools as follows:
- Harvard, MIT
- Tufts
- BU, BC
- NEU
- Brandeis
Any good flagship state university should be as good as Tufts - UVA, UCB etc to name a few.
Olin, Williams, Amherst, Wellesley, Babson?
New England Conservatory, Berklee, Boston Conservatory
Tufts is better than BC, BU, Brandeis, NEU, and definitely Babson (what are they strong in other than entrepreneurship?). I think Tufts is close behind Wellesley and Olin, which in turn are behind Williams and Amherst (They are not BOSTON AREA, but Massachusetts schools) and Tufts is also a long distance behind Harvard and MIT.
And the others are music schools, how can you compare them with research universities such as Tufts or even with LACs like Wellesley or Amherst?
But nationally, I think Tufts is at the USC/UCLA/Emory/Georgetown Level but still below the Northwestern/WashU tier. (I personally chose Tufts over Emory after receiving one of Emoryâs merit scholarships before getting accepted ED2 at Tufts).
http://www.collegefactual.com/rankings/best-colleges/new-england/massachusetts/
Here is a link to MA college rankings
Harvard
Amherst
MIT
Olin
Holy Cross
Tufts
Williams
Babson
BC
Brandeis
BU
https://www.niche.com/colleges/rankings/best-colleges/s/massachusetts/
Another MA ranking
MIT
Harvard
Tufts
Williams
Amherst
NE
Smith
Wellesley
Holy Cross
BC
WPI
@ap012199
Have you decided to enroll at Tufts?
@wisteria100 Iâm waiting until after I visit but Iâm pretty sure I will be (itâs between Tufts, Berkeley and Harvard right now).
Definitely Barnard College of Columbia University. Both are prestigious schools with low acceptance rates (Barnardâs is 14.8% this year) and are in or near large cities. Barnard has that small, liberal arts college vibe as well as a large Ivy League university feel since it is an undergraduate college of CU (Barnard women get degrees from CU and graduate at Columbia U graduation). I have met tons of people that were deciding between both Barnard and Tufts. They seem to attract similar people. Both are quite artistic, international, cosmopolitan, and intellectual.