<p>I just have bio and math and I don't want to take another one. Are there any schools (other than Yale, Pton, Harvard) that don't require 3 SAT IIs? Thanks a bunch!</p>
<p>Here's what I could find, and probably more than you wanted:</p>
<p>couldn't find the number for Cornell and Northwestern</p>
<p>Wanting 2 subject tests:
Amherst
Babson [recommended]
Barnard
BC
BU
Brandeis
Bryn Mawr
Caltech [Math II + 1 science {Physics, Chem or Bio}
CMU [one in math]
CMU in Qatar [one in math]
Connecticut College
Dartmouth
Davidson [recommended]
Duke
Emory [recommended]
Harvey Mudd [one in math 2]
Haverford
NYU
U Penn
Pomona
Rice
Skidmore [recommended]
Smith [optional/recommended]
Spelman [home schooled only]
Swarthmore
Union [check on this one]
Vassar
Wagner [recommended]
Washington and Lee
Wellesley
Wesleyan
Williams</p>
<p>Three subject tests:
University of La Verne [recommended]
McDaniel [optional]
Oberlin [recommended]
Occidental [recommended]
Reed [optional]
Rollins [recommended]
Trinity [check on this one]
Westminster in PA [optional]</p>
<p>Colleges which recommend subject tests:
Agnes Scott
Allegheny
American
U Del
Fordham
Lafayette
Lehigh
U Mary + Washington
Mills
Ohio Wesleyan
Pace
Providence
Scripps</p>
<p>Optional:
Beloit
Carleton
Case Western
CMC
Colby
Cobly-Sawyer
Cornell [Iowa]
Fairfield
GWU
Kenyon
Loyola New Orleans
Macalester
U Rochester
St. John's in Maine
William and Mary</p>
<p>Considered:
Gonzaga</p>
<p>Accepted:
Saint Vincent's</p>
<p>Some programs:
RPI
Stevens</p>
<p>Placement:
Vanderbilt</p>
<p>Tufts and Brown both required 3 SAT II's until the new SAT came into effect. Now, they require 2, prefer at least 3, and treat the Writing portion of the SAT I as a 3rd SAT subject test.</p>
<p>If you submit an ACT with writing score, does this replace the subject test requirements?</p>
<p>No. 10char</p>
<p>Amany colleges with tests the choice is between ACT or SAT and SATII, just check the colleges in question, though I can't guarantee you that you can have the SAT but then sub in the ACT for the SAT II.</p>
<p>No? Then why does my CB College Guide say for most schools "SAT and SAT Subject Tests OR ACT"?</p>
<p>I don't know. I would think that they meant that colleges'll take the SAT or ACT + however many SAT IIs.</p>
<p>Also, will AP tests suffice as an indicator of subject strengths if I choose to submit just my ACT? This is the way I want to go, but I don't want it to be looked down upon in any way.</p>
<p>Hm, I think you implied that Princeton doesn't require 3 SAT II's in your original request, which I believe is wrong.</p>
<p>Quoted from their website,
"All applicants must submit official score reports of the SAT Reasoning and SAT Subject Tests in three different subject areas."</p>
<p>Just here to help!</p>
<p>Don't rely on interpretations of the CB college guide -- just go to the colleges' web sites. They will tell you for sure. (Although I certainly would not interpret that sentence the way you would, senioritis42 -- it seems clear to me that the alternatives are the SAT track or the ACT one.)</p>
<p>I don't know why this discussion perennially crops up -- the college web sites themselves are clear and unambiguous (at least all the ones I've seen having gone through the college search process for two children).</p>
<p>Everywhere my daughter applied (which included three Ivies, one of which she is now attending) took the ACT in lieu of both the SAT I and IIs. However, there are other schools where one has to submit SAT IIs even if the ACT is used.</p>
<p>I've seen no evidence that colleges look down on submitting just the ACT. If they want SAT IIs or only the SAT I, they are perfectly free to say so. People will rely on what certain colleges USED to say and continue to take tests on that basis. But, to me, it makes more sense to look at what they are saying NOW and to submit your strongest test scores.</p>
<p>Ok, well now I have another question. I took the SAT twice (December & January, no prep) and was not happy with my scores at all (1870 & 1950). I was planning on studying/practicing all summer for SAT, but now I feel I will do better with ACT.</p>
<p>So for the colleges I am applying to that still require SAT IIs, they will still see my old, bad SAT scores. Is this really negative at all, or will the completely disregard my bad SAT scores? Is it worth trying to improve them a little?</p>
<p>FYI, I plan on applying to schools like WFU, UNC Chapel Hill (OOS), Boston College.</p>
<p>Northwestern does not require any SAT II tests unless you are applying to HPME. However, they recommend three for everyone.
<a href="http://www.ugadm.northwestern.edu/freshman/applying/new-sat-act.htm#sat2%5B/url%5D">http://www.ugadm.northwestern.edu/freshman/applying/new-sat-act.htm#sat2</a></p>
<p>Cornell recommends for certain colleges and requires for others. See the following.
<a href="http://admissions.cornell.edu/downloads/freshmen_reqs_timetable.pdf%5B/url%5D">http://admissions.cornell.edu/downloads/freshmen_reqs_timetable.pdf</a></p>
<p>DianeR:
I wasn't saying that I would read the college guide's sentence that way. I was saying that I thought it was wrong. That was just from personal experience, though, since the colleges I applied to and considered definitely wouldn't take anything in lieu of SAT IIs.</p>
<p>I had a friend who had poor standard SAT scores and good ACT scores, and she did fine college-wise. I wouldn't recommend taking the SATs again if you think you're going to perform well on the ACT.</p>
<p>Georgetown also asks for 3</p>
<p>My daughter was accepted to UNC Chapel Hill (OOS) and only submitted the ACT. According to its web site, Boston College accepts the ACT in lieu of both the SAT I and II. Wake Forest accepts either the SAT I or ACT and doesn't require SAT IIs at all. So which schools are you thinking of that require SAT IIs with the ACT? The three you mentioned don't.</p>
<p>I don't know about how colleges view the poor SAT/ good ACT scenario. I think they usually say they take the higher score. If I were an adcomm (and I'm not -- so take what I say for the little it's worth ...), I wouldn't necessarily hold the SAT scores against an applicant. But if I was seeing two applicants, equal in everything like grades and ACT scores, but one did well in the SAT and the other didn't, I suppose I would give the nod to the former. It might make a difference how many times you take the test that yields the lower score -- one time could be seen as nerves or the person being sick that day, etc. </p>
<p>Realize this is just my speculation, though!</p>
<p>senioritis42, I realize you were trying to give accurate information. But one can't generalize from a limited selection of schools to what all schools will do -- as I guess you now realize :) There are plenty of places where the ACT can go in by itself. Fortunately, these included everywhere my daughter wanted to apply.</p>
<p>Go here for a fairly good list of colleges that require, recommend or consider SAT II's: <a href="http://www.compassprep.com/admissions_req_subjects.aspx%5B/url%5D">http://www.compassprep.com/admissions_req_subjects.aspx</a></p>
<p>In the required column an * next to the number means the college accepts the ACT in lieu of both the SAT and SAT II's. As you will see, many that usually require SAT II's will take the ACT in lieu of both the SAT and SAT II's and those include three ivies, Yale, Penn, and Brown, Amherst, Hopkins, Tifts, Pomona, Vassar, and a number of others. However, there are also a number of colleges (including the other ivies) that still require the SAT II's even if you submit the ACT. Also, the list is over a year old and Duke and U Virginia have gone from requiring to recommending SAT II's.</p>
<p>The comment above about Wake Forest taking the SAT I or the ACT actually reflects a very recent change for Wake Forest. This will be the first year it will take the ACT. That leaves Harvey Mudd as the only college among the top 300 or so colleges that still does not accept the ACT</p>
<p>...No. 10char...</p>
<p>What is meant by 10char?</p>
<p>10 char is to fulfill the ten character requirement when talking on a thread.</p>
<p>why would anyone want to take SATs and three SAT IIs (so long... seven hrs total in testing!) why wouldn't people just take the ACTs?</p>