Which university for me (only 4 U's to choose from)?

<p>Okay, I’ll alter that to:
American colleges always make unconditional offers, with the understanding you will not get an F :slight_smile:
In addition, some unconditional offers will come with the requirement you complete their ESL courses before you can enroll.
But overall the system isn’t like the British system, you have to meet their conditions BEFORE admission in order to get in.</p>

<p>I looked for these colleges and all private ones are very expensive and their financial aid page does not state that there will be enough scholarships for international students. Is this normal, so do they notify the students about scholarships only if they accept them?
I’ve to take a closer look on the public ones, but as you said CUNY CSI and FAU seem to be ok and I’ll think about Old Westbury and NYIT. But it definitely isn’t a good idea to attend a university with a commuter campus as an international student in NYC.</p>

<p>If you have $30,000 for your education as stated above, you do not need a full scholarship. Private colleges will consider your application for financial aid more favorably if you can contribute half the cost.</p>

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<p>What makes you say this? UK universities (including scotland) charge up to 9,000 GBP per year to EU students.</p>

<p>no, Keepittoyourself: English universities charge £9,000 (up to, depends on Uni), as well as Northern Ireland; Welch universities charge £2-3,000; and Scottish universities do not charge anything for tuition to students from Mainland Europe (nor do they charge £9,000 to Scottish students - only English students have to pay the same as they would in their own nation. Scotland is in the process of trying to leave the UK to integrate the EU as an independent nation, on account of disagreeing with pretty much everything Whitehall does then being held accountable for these decisions they disagreed with in the first place - it’s been a long process but devolution didn’t really end things). Republic of Ireland Irish universities also have low tuition fees for European students.</p>

<p>Thank you @MYOS1634. Does this mean I’d have to apply for financial aid (need-based aid) or do you mean normal scholarships. The colleges don’t state that clearly. </p>

<p>There are scholarship programs for German students, that guarantee scholarships from US universities. You have to pay about 2500$ and they do guarantee that you’ll get 9 offers. Do you think it’s a good idea to apply there (it’s not scam, this organization is well known in Germany).
@keepittoyourself MYOS1634 is right, Scottish universities do not charge anything for us. There are tuition fees, but they are paid by an government organization called SAAS. English students would have to pay 9,000 GBP. UK universities do charge EU students tuition, but it’s the same UK students do have to pay. And in addition, all EU students can get a loan directly from the UK government and the interest rate isn’t very high.</p>

<p>Sorry you’re right - I was confusing the rate that Scottish unis charge English students with the rate that they charge other EU foreigners.</p>

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I know two agencies that do this. I personally wouldn’t want to attend the colleges they work with. (One agency publishes their college list here: [Stipendien</a> USA](<a href=“http://www.internationaldoorway.de/stipendien-bachelor-usa.htm]Stipendien”>Auslandsstipendium – Kosten und Förderungen - was-kostet.net)) In addition, the scholarships you’d get via the agency is not “agency-exclusive.” You could have those same scholarships if you applied to the colleges directly.</p>

<p>What the agencies will help you with is the application process. They would translate your transcripts, for example, and applications submitted via the agencies can sometimes be processed after the regular application deadlines of those colleges.</p>

<p>Yes, it’s these two agencies, internationaldoorway and iSt. The other one doesn’t publish the colleges.
As for internationaldoorway, there is for example Lindenwood University or Webber International university, which are very cheap. On their website, I didn’t find that they offer such huge scholarships. But if you can really get one without the agency, then the 2500$ are just rip-off.
Are all universities listed bad? Otherwise I would pick one and apply to it without the help of that agency. </p>

<p>Of the universities listed, North Dakota State University might be your best bet. Here are their scholarships for international students: <a href=“http://www.ndsu.edu/international/scholarships/”>http://www.ndsu.edu/international/scholarships/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>But I’d encourage you to take a look at all of the colleges on the list and decide for yourself which you’d like to attend. For example, neither Lindenwood nor Webbter International offer any engineering majors. Webber also happens to be tiny (a total of 700 students, combined undergraduate + graduate students!) and they have a super-low retention rate of 52%. If half of their students don’t want to return for a second year, something must be going wrong there…</p>

<p>@b@r!um Okay, I realized most schools are not good - or maybe they are, but these aren’t schools I’d like to attend. Maybe NDSU, Lindenwood and Felician College, but NDSU is the only one that offers engineering majors. And I think I’d apply to Felician too, but I don’t know how strong their Christian “roots” are.</p>

<p>@MYOS1634
You mentioned Arizona State U. It’s a very good school, but it’s cost are higher than 30,000$. Is there a chance to get a scholarship, even though they say that there’s no funding for international students?</p>

<p>You wouldn’t like Felician College. Take a look at their curriculum and their selectivity. Their courses look like they target the American equivalent of a German Hauptschul-graduate. For example, with a German Abitur, you’d be 5 courses away from finishing a math major at Felician College. (The math major requires another 6 courses whose content you probably learned in grades 8-12: algebra, geometry, trigonometry, calculus, basic statistics and probability.) In the computer science department, the course “Data Structures and Algorithms” counts as an advanced upper-level course. At more selective colleges, this same course is the 2nd course in the computer science sequence and a prerequisite for all non-introductory courses. </p>

<p>The level that their courses are taught at are not surprising if you consider their admission statistics. For example, the mid-50% range for their verbal SAT scores is 360-460. That’s 10th to 37th percentile. If you wouldn’t feel challenged at a Hauptschule (or a Berufsschule), you probably also wouldn’t feel challenged at Felician College.</p>

<p>I do encourage you to pay attention to the admission statistics of American colleges, because what kind of student a college attracts has a HUGE impact on the kind of education you’ll get there. (Gotta teach courses at the level of the students in the room…) That’s particularly important at small colleges like Felician. It’s less of an issue at bigger diverse universities like North Dakota State University. NDSU appears to enroll a wide range of students, including a fair number of good students. NDSU will still teach a number of courses targeted at the weaker students, but they have a large enough number of strong students that you’ll find academic peers and get challenged.) </p>

<p>Okay, I see this point. Thank you, I really didn’t know this.
There is really a huge difference between what we regard as an university and what is called an university in the US, so I have to look for that closer. Well, I know what the curriculum in our Hauptschulen is, and that’s a joke in comparison to what we do. In math, we finished probability and stochastics a few weeks ago - including significance test and hypothesis test.
Of course I’d like to attend an university that continues with this and not begins at level 0. I think USF was a good choice, but if you look for this point, would CUNY CSI and Florida Atlantic be a good choice? According to a big German government database, CUNY CSI is seen as a “Master’s Colleges and Universities”, Florida Atlantic as a “Research University”, just like USF.</p>

<p>If you are certain you want aerospace engineering you could look at Embry-Riddle, in Daytona Beach, Florida. <a href=“http://daytonabeach.erau.edu/admissions/international/financial/index.html”>Embry-Riddle Aeronautical University;

<p>That’s not what you should look at. You need to type college data followed by the name of the school, then look at the stats presented for admissions: if the 25-75 range starts below 500, the university’s student body isn’t very good. If it starts between 500 and 600, it’s good. If it starts at 600 the university’s very good. If it’s below 450, think carefully. Then look at the top of the 75 range: if that top range is 580-600, the university’s so-so. If its 630-650 or so it’s okay. If it’s over 650 it’s good and over 700 it’s truly excellent. You can also look at the percentage of students with 700+ and how many there are in the freshman class.
Also, for a decent school, you want 75% of the students to be above 1000 CR+M on the SAT (and higher if possible, but 1000 should be the bare minimum), preferably 75% above 1100 to 1150.
For instance, CUNY CSI has 440-540 for CR and 470-560 for M; FAU has CR470-560 M490-580 and only about 2% at or above 700, about 200 out of the freshman class; USF has 6-8% at or above 700, with 540-640CR and 530-630 M for the range.
American high schools are comprehensive, meaning in German terms as B@r!um said, they include Hauptschule students up to excellent Gymnasium students. Then either students choose smaller colleges that target their achievement group or they attend a very large university where all achievement groups are present, including theirs. </p>

<p>Thanks, so if it’s right what I understood, CUNY CSI isn’t good for me, FAU is neither good nor bad and USF fits me perfect - right? Sorry if I got something wrong, it’s very complicated to understand since your system is completely different than ours. </p>

<p>@janesmith
I know Embry Riddle, they also have several campuses in Germany. I don’t know why, but that it is a pure aeronautics college, does not really convince me. I’ve to do a deeper research about it. :"> </p>

<p>CSI would be a safety school, FAU would be a match, and USF would be a reach for you.</p>

<p>Thanks!</p>

<p>One more question, what’s about West Texas A&M? I heard several times that it’s a school for Texas’ dumbest students (I don’t want to attack somebody, I’m just saying what I heard). Is this true? It’s admissions stats are not reported.</p>

<p>NO it’s most emphatically not- TAMU is a top school for engineering! It’s only average if your goal is Art History or Philosophy but for STEM fields it’s top-notch. One thing you need to know is that its student body is very conservative, in an American/Texan sense. However the students are also friendly, very very proud of their university (they’ll teach you how to chant!) and very much into football (American football).
As for WTAMU it’s a branch campus so obviously it’s less good than the main campus, but if you do well there your first year or two, you could transfer fairly easily to the main campus, and even if you finish your engineering degree there, you should be fine.</p>