<p>I posted this before and got 0 replies under a different title. It is still stuck in my craw! Who is getting into tier 1 schools? My nephews school hosted a private recruitment evening for hyps and not 1 kid is attending! </p>
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I've heard so much about improving the sociodiversity on campuses lately! I'm not really able to wrap my head around the problem because it seems that everyone I know from both ends of the spectrum is going to state colleges! I have a nephew who is graduating from a posh prep school in Seattle, and looking at the list of universities that those kids are going to, I don't see many private schools represented ( mostly from the pacific NW if at all) I saw lots of UC's, lots of U Dub, and other state flagships, but very few ivies or LACs. This was a list going back 3 years. If privates aren't taking these kids, who are they taking? The same goes for the poor kids I know- most go to local commuter schools, not privates. Is this about internationals?
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<p>I guess my tier 1 is the top20 private national universities, because these kids are attending u of Michigan, Berkeley, ucla , William and Mary. As for lacs they are attending reed, Whitman, ups, u of San Diego, gonzaga, Lewis and Clark. LOTS are going to u dub. I’m positive they are applying to more selective schools (although my nephew didn’t), but it does’t seem that they are getting in (a complete waste of a recruitment night IMHO.). So if its not them, and its not everyone else, who is it?</p>
<p>This school costs close to 20000 a year. When my nephew enrolled his parents had very high expectations about his future education choices - and were promised that those expectations would be met. Now it turned out that my nephew is on a different path, and that is OK, but if he wasn’t doing his own thing I pretty sure his parents would be livid.</p>
<p>When there are 30,000 high schools in this country (and let’s exclude homeschoolers and internationals for right now), isn’t it more than a little arrogant to expect any one high school out of those 30,000 to have multiple HYPS acceptances?</p>
<p>Yes it is arrogant. it’s also smug, elitist, classist, and probably racist- but it already exists. I’m not complaining about these outcomes, I’m just surprised by them. If anything I’m happy to learn that maybe we live in a more egalitarian society than I had assumed. And I’m very happy to learn that maybe some of the us finest universities feel the same way. I still don’t know who was accepted. If not full pay high stat kids from metro areas, who? It can’t be all kids with high financial need! Are they making room for more internationals with$?</p>
<p>Not rich enough- yes those schools are posher! I would double love to see where those kids are going to school this fall. Are they being impacted by classism as probable members of the 2 percent? Princeton needs someone for the eating clubs, right?</p>
<p>The answer as to where they are going - wherever they want to. People with that kind of money don’t <em>need</em> to agonize that their kids won’t “make it” if they don’t get into HYPSM (or whatever subset of elite colleges you desire to pick). They can send their kids to Decent Flagship State U with frats and football games and those kids will do just fine in life. They’re already born on third base and have connections.</p>
<p>Is it at all possible that it’s just not the full-pay high-stat metro-area kids that you happen to know? And the lower-income kids that you know? You’re making a generalization based on a pretty small sample size to assume that it must be international students getting accepted.</p>
<p>Hey- I got that much by looking at the list from my nephews school. It was quite obvious that many were taking their high stats and their wallets to oos flagship universities. So what kind of kid is paying tuition at the rest of America’s finest institutions of higher learning? Is it the children of parents who make less than $120000? 80000? Is it more egalitarian?</p>
<p>It is entirely possible that my sample and my assumptions are way off base! That’s really why I posed the question. A few weeks ago it seemed like every news paper I picked up said that America’s most prestigious universities were still top heavy with rich white kids. I looked at my circles and couldn’t see how that was true. Is it? From the articles I read it appeared that schools were very aware of their role in society and were taking that responsibility seriously. So I asked the question- anecdotally, who got into these schools?</p>
<p>The flip side question is whether your local “elite” private high school is really as good as it claims it is. Are they really churning out significant numbers of “high stats” kids when compared to the national pool from which these schools recruit?</p>
<p>I don’t know anyone who applied to those schools this year. I just asked the question because I can’t imagine that all elite universities would decide to make an enormous demographic shift at the same time in one admissions cycle.</p>
<p>That is a reasonable question and I don’t really know the answer because I don’t have the brag sheet in front of me. For sure there were some national merit scholars and ap scholars. A lot of aps are offered. My nephew is off to become a paramedic/ski instructor, and never really showed that much interest in scholarly pursuits- and I never paid much interest in pieces of paper that didn’t have his name on them at functions. What a bummer to think it might be a lame school</p>