who here thinks that SAT or ACT is stupid?

<p>Are you having issues admitting that your friend is, maybe, smarter than you?</p>

<p>Try the Xiggi method or something. Don't get angry at the system simply because you don't fit into it.</p>

<p>Grad'06 in your case no amount of prepping will get you a higher score and that's how it's meant to be.</p>

<p>Top colleges don't just want people who work hard. They want smart people who work hard. Hard workers may get good grades but they may not be as smart as other people who get good grades. So the SAT is used to see if you really are as smart as your grades say you are or if you just work hard for those grades. I know plenty of 3.9s UW in my class who got 1600s/2400 on the SAT. Their grades would have you believe that they're smart but really they aren't. It's easy to get As in those classes if you just work a little. </p>

<p>A lot of people who do bad just blame it on their bad test-taking skills. Test-taking can be improved by just taking practice tests in conditions similar to the real thing. If you really are smart then you're not going to blame it on your test-taking inability.</p>

<p>BTW - your case is a perfect example of WHY THE SAT WORKS. You might have a perfect 4.0 unweighted at school - but this just shows you have a weakness.</p>

<p>Grad'06, I don't think that the test is unstudyable for anyone. Maybe you just developed a really bad case of sat-phobia? (I don't want to insult you, because obviously you've spent infinitely more time and money trying to figure out why you didn't do well.) Yeah, there are people with test-anxiety - altough it seems anyone who didn't do as well as they had wanted blames it on that these days. But that's life - this is a results-driven world. Just as you perform in the classroom, it's necessary to perform here too.</p>

<p>tetra - lol. so true.</p>

<p>SAT II: Subject Tests are quite fun. However, I loathe SAT math with a passion and writing is a pain in my ass!</p>

<p>stan, So basically you are just saying that people with lower scores cannot make them better?</p>

<p>bluealien01, with preparation anyone can make their scores better but there is a point where your score will not go up no matter how much you prepare. I would say that this limit is higher for smarter people.</p>

<p>Well, if you originally might have gotten a 1200 score, Grad'06...</p>

<p>SAT Subject tests are a little bit different though. Obviously, the kid in AP US is going to have an easier time on the test than the kid at a ****ty public without AP. But you can self study for the subject tests quite adequately, especially the math ones.</p>

<p>SAT subject test isn't pure reasoning and intelligence, but knowledge, it's completely different from the SAT.</p>

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SAT subject test isn't pure reasoning and intelligence, but knowledge, it's completely different from the SAT.

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<p>So the SAT is an IQ test? I have relearn things over and over again. I can learn something and then forget how to do it 5 days later. It's like I've never seen it before.</p>

<p>then you never learned it in the first place... you either memorized it or convinced yourself you learned it...</p>

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then you never learned it in the first place... you either memorized it or convinced yourself you learned it...

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<p>No, I learned it/how to do it. I don't think someone is supposed to remember everything forever, are they?</p>

<p>Still you should remember 5 days later. Thats not an extended period of time. If you can't remember after only 5 days, then you obviously need to tweak something in your learning process.</p>

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Still you should remember 5 days later. Thats not an extended period of time. If you can't remember after only 5 days, then you obviously need to tweak something in your learning process.

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<p>Or I don't have a long term memory.</p>

<p>the SAT doesn't test for knowledge. as it says on the cover of the test, it is a reasoning test. This shows your ability to REASON. this doesn't show how smart you are. :P you can be a genius and understand everything after being shown once but u can still flunk the SAT. best way to study for the SAT is to not study, but in fact wait till your brain develops more and you can reason better.</p>

<p>How much longer do you have to wait for it to develop when you're already in college? :P I can even teach myself things from books now, I just have trouble remembering them and I work slow.</p>

<p>Then the SAT did its job. You got a low score, and thus the SAT pointed out that you don't work as quickly as students with high scores. Nothing wrong with that at all, except blaming the SAT for doing its job.</p>

<p>not really. Working slow is also good. When I took the SAT at my normal pace, i finished each 30 minute section in 7 minutes and sat there for the rest of the duration. I subsequently got a score in the 1400s</p>

<p>When I took it again (ASAP) I worked slowly and tried my best to answer every question. THe careless errors magically disappeared. Lets just say I did fabulous.</p>

<p>by the time junior year is over, u should take it. I imagine most high schools force students to take JER. taking it right after the school year ends is better than the beginning of a school year because I don't know about u but I personally forget EVERYTHING i was taught.</p>

<p>If you're a really slow test taker, skip the hard problems. Go back to them if you have time. You will still come out with a very decent score even if u leave like 10 blank. :)</p>