<p>catholics T.T</p>
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<p>Who the **** do you think you are? Go **** yourself. You talk about diversity and tolerance and **** then you go and stereotype the midwest like the east coast piece of **** snob you are.</p>
<p>Wooooooooooow someone needs to learn how to control his emotions…It’s true, Midwest LACs (and LACs in general) are a lot less ethnically diverse than Ivies. So take a chill pill. Unless that rant was sarcastic…</p>
<p>Yeah, LACs in Middle America are much less diverse than coastal urban schools. It’s not necessarily a bad thing, but it is true. As for the OP, you explicitly said you weren’t very open to diversity. What did you mean?</p>
<p>Also, I know there is a lot of diversity, so would someone who isn’t very open to diversity feel out of place there? </p>
<p>This is actually what I said, and I wasn’t explicitly refering to myself. Also, Ones, I’m not exactly sure what your comment means, but it seems deragatory, and I really don’t appreciate it.</p>
<p>Haaa well first of all…I’m not saying this is right and/or typical, but if you’re going to go to school in a city full of liberal hipsters, you’re gonna have to get used to people not being huge fans of religion.</p>
<p>omg, i got a likely letter from columbia a while ago…</p>
<p>if there are people like mrk642 at columbia who might not be open to diversity, i DEFINITELY don’t want to go to columbia…at all…</p>
<p>dont worry columbia is really diverse
and we love that</p>
<p>NYC is full of darks, mexicans, asians, whites, homos, and much more. dont even worry unless you are a native american indian.</p>
<p>thanks for the reassurance!</p>
<p>I can’t believe anyone is questioning the diversity at Columbia. There’s not a college in this nation with a more diverse population of smart, talented and interesting kids than Columbia. Do a bit of research, and you’ll know this to be true.</p>
<p>well i was actually excited when i saw the title of this thread because i thought it would be about the atmosphere of columbia. </p>
<p>so who is columbia for?
i’m asking because i think of new york city as massive, full of life, and full of incredible people in and out of Columbia.</p>
<p>I can be fun and want that exciting atmosphere, which is one of the reasons i applied, however i’ve always been more of an introverted kind of person. do you have to be extremely outgoing to go to columbia?</p>
<p>do introvertedness plus nyc/columbia not mix?</p>
<p>Don’t worry kelloggs, Columbia has a very culturally, ethnically, and intellectually diverse student body. And everyone’s pretty tolerant, though many are also a little self-righteous. By and large, students who dislike diversity and heterogeneity won’t be admitted or won’t attend. OP, I understand you were not explicitly saying that you were not open to diversity, but you have to understand the implication of your comment. You were concerned that someone who was closed-minded and found solace and homogeneity would be alienated in the diverse environment of Columbia and New York City. It should not be offensive to advise such a person not to attend Columbia, because they would not like it. As for why we addressed our responses to you, well, you were the one who asked. Finally, I’m a Catholic, currently attending a Jesuit school in Manhattan. Obviously, the Jesuits are fairly liberal. Obviously, the Jesuits are a very liberal order of Catholicism, but my point is that I’m not attacking you because I’m anti-Catholic, just because I don’t think someone closed-minded to diversity would be able to survive at Columbia.</p>
<p>Incidentially, yesterday was the 30th anniversary of the assassination by an El Salvadoran government death squad of Archbishop Oscar Romero, who worked closely with liberationist Latin American Jesuits. Romero started out as a conservative and a staunch supporter of the government and capitalist elite, but once he realized they were exploiting the poor landless El Salvadoran workers and killing priests who tried to organize said workers, he began to call for social justice for the poor. Very interesting guy.</p>
<p>It probably is time we got back on topic, angel. New York City is an amazing place, as is Columbia. Columbia’s location as both within and without is really ideal. You can explore the city if you want, but you always have a “home base” to come back to. And there’s s much happening on campus and so many great places in Morningside Heights that you never have to go downtown if you don’t want to. You have an inexhaustible variety of choices. I don’t think you need to be “outgoing” to be a Columbian. I mean, you have to be social, but it’s not hard to be social and introverted. You can have a core group of friends, join a couple clubs, and just get to know your classmates. You never have to be the life of the party; you can just engage with people intellectually and socially. The amazing thing about Columbia that I noticed when I spent two days and nights there was that the students (at least the freshmen) acted like normal college kids, pretty laid-back and content to just talk, be social, and chill. At the same time, though, they were really intelligent and intellectual. And that’s just an amazing combination. So I think you’ll find that you can be an intoverted, insightful, intellectual girl and make lots of friends and have a great social life. You definitely won’t be the only one.</p>
<p>To survive and thrive in Columbia and New York, you have to be independent and a little individualist. You have to be able to run your own life without much outside help. If you’re extremely shy or very sheltered, you may have to adapt. But if you’re just introverted, it shouldn’t be a problem. Even though I don’t know you well, based on your tone, I think you’d do fine.</p>
<p>^in my experience the introverted kids do not do as well socially. many at columbia are out to network and make as many friends as possible, others are incredibly receptive to someone who puts out their hand and initiates conversation, while they might not be the ones taking the initiative in the first place. There is a place here for introverts and they do find other introverts, but they tend to not have as many friends / be as popular socially, as kids who leave their comfort zone and take initiative.</p>
<p>Okay, I apologize for attacking averyone that commented, and I understand that my comment may have made it seem like I am someone who doesn’t like diversity. It’s not that I am not open to it- I would love to live in a big city like NYC, and meet all the amazing people there- it’s just that I live in a town that is pretty segregated as far as the schools that different races attend an the areas of town in which they live. So, sorry for sounding rude.</p>
<p>@concoll
Fair enough. I’m just not sure whether the poster self-identifying as an “introvert” is truly antisocial (or even asocial). I think a lot of students who are more intellectual and not popular in high school may consider themselves to be “introverts” when they are actually quite social. But I don’t know the poster’s situation, so I couldn’t say for sure.</p>
<p>@OP
So your concern is that you haven’t been exposed to diversity? Are you concerned that you’ll do/say something inappropriate and offend someone? That’s a legitimate concern but not something I would worry about. If you’re willing to adapt, you will. If, on the other hand, you’re concerned that you’ll feel uncomfortable in such a diverse environment, then you have to make the call. Will you be unhappy or willit be an opportunity for you to become worldly?</p>
<p>hmmm…what about poor internationals? Where do we fit in this whole process anyways!!!</p>
<p>at least for Columbia’s purposes this thread isn’t suitable, the only people Columbia is unfit for, is those who don’t want to meet people very different from themselves. Columbia is nearly as diverse a campus as I could realistically conceive. You have book nerds, math geeks, debaters, jocks, poets, skeptical economists, sorority girls, people who want to take over the world and everything else. there are extremes of rich and poor, kids from every race, a large international population coming from every continent. About two thirds of internationals are well off enough to not need aid, but ~35% of internationals receive an average of $43,500 each year (making cost of attendance ~$8,000-10,000), so there is a sizable place for poor internationals. </p>
<p>My absolute favorite part about Columbia is that, even in my senior year, my friend circle is highly diverse, in terms of wealth, race, geographical background, political leaning, career aspiration and most other dimensions. Columbia is one of the few schools out there that still really isn’t for anyone in particular, yet caters to nearly everyone, as an undergrad I wouldn’t trade this for anything.</p>
<p>From the Columbia website:</p>
<p><<Columbia is committed to creating and supporting a community diverse in every way: race, ethnicity, geography, religion, academic and extracurricular interest, family circumstance, sexual orientation, socio-economic background and more. With one of the most generous financial aid programs in the nation, we ensure that our education is accessible to all. We offer a curriculum as pluralistic and polyphonic as New York itself and a community of scholars who embody this commitment to diversity and who encourage discussion and debate.</p>
<p>Diversity is one of the things that make Columbia vibrant, dynamic and exciting. Students at Columbia find a setting that allows them to explore diversity in a variety of ways and a university that prides itself on serious intellectual inquiry, the exploration of diverse ideas, the strength of interdisciplinary investigation, a culture of dialogue and debate and a student body committed to service and civic engagement. In this setting students seek to understand each other and understand themselves. This is the transformative power of diversity in education-its ability to enrich the individual as it enriches the community and society as a whole.>></p>
<p>Noticeably missing is any comment on diversity of political opinion. If an applicant is politically conservative or libertarian, do not mention it on your application.</p>