Who said the Pac-10 is a weak conference?

Colleges and Universities A-Z University of California - Berkeley
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<p>unnecessarily, definitely agree, bluebayou take note</p>

<p>sakky: again, good post. If we had thought Cal would be where they are now 7 or 8 years ago, I would have laughed.</p>

<p>misterr: I don't regret anything I said. UCLA did play a very good game, and they deserve credit for capitalizing on Cal's mistakes. But, Cal is a stronger team overall which they have shown with wins over quality opponents this year, and which UCLA proved with their recent loss to ND. Cal could have put this game away today, and with the athletes they have, they should've. But, as I mentioned before, UCLA played a very solid game, and that was the difference.</p>

<p>mega: don't post unless you know what you are talking about lol!
sans the fumble or incompletion here and there<Here and there? huh? uhh, those are kindof a big deal in football games!</p>

<p>Cowan threw pass after amazing pass that connected and many went for long yards <That's good, seeing that he IS the quarterback.</p>

<p>And I didn't see anything spectacular out of DJ today, honestly. I'll credit him for his speed and a little bit for losing his defenders here and there but his catches were nothing amazing. <To put it nicely, he owned you guys out there. 9 catches for 136 yards and 2 TD's, his best output all year, and you didn't "see anything spectacular?" That's averaging 14 yards per catch. Maybe you shouldn't tailgate so hard. He put your defenders to shame. Hawkins, by the way, is a wide receiver. In fact, our biggest mistake was not throwing more. Honestly, what were you doing during the game lol?
-I do, however, agree that you were very good at stopping the run.</p>

<p>In my mind, the game was very close, and both teams played well. With the exception being Cal's defense. Cal was one play away from winning the game, but a turnover cost them, as they did all day. We made big plays, but couldn't do anything with them. Oh well, on to ASU next week again!</p>

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<p>You can flame me or talk trash or whatever, in my opinion and from what I have seen these past two weeks, CAL will not make it to a bowl game this year. Next year will be a rebuilding year as all our our top guys will be gone. I have no faith in Riley and whatever recruits we bring in, will have to be broken in for about a year or two before we EVER get to the rose bowl. That is my opinion. You can say whatever you want, but I think the season is pretty much over.</p>

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<p>Cal obviously didnt play the better game (they lost!). However, I dont think theyre OUT completely for the rose bowl. Assuming cal wins out (a big IF at this point)...heres what could happen</p>

<p>USC will be a 2 loss team at best
Oregon State will be a 2 loss team if they lose to SC
Arizona State IMO will be ~ 2 loss team.</p>

<p>If Cal really gets there act together we can make RB. So we have a chance however slim!</p>

<p>Oh and btw for the most part the game was well coached. There were a lot of intangibles in UCLA's favor (sweet trick play, longshore's picks, missed field goal, no robert jordan, etc.)</p>

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CAL will not make it to a bowl game this year.

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<p>Oh come on, now. I think that's going a bit far, don't you think? I agree that the Rose Bowl is probably unattainable. But not any bowl at all? Let's keep in mind that there are a lot of mediocre bowl games out there. </p>

<p>Let me put it to you this way. Last year, Oregon went just 7-5, and a losing record in the conference (4-5), which put them in only a 5th place tie in the conference, yet still made it to the Las Vegas Bowl. Similarly, Arizona State also went just 7-5, and the same losing record in the conference (4-5), also finishing 5th in the Pac-10, yet ASU still made the Aloha Bowl. Cal should at least be able to match that. After all, Cal only needs to go 2-3 the rest of the way to match that record. Granted, Cal may indeed lose to Arizona State and USC, but it would still mean that Cal would only need to win 2 out of 3 from a pick'em of Stanford, Washington, and Washington State. I don't think that's that hard to do, especially when you consider that the 2 Washington teams haven't even won a single conference game yet.</p>

<p>Like I said before, I think that Cal is still in quite good shape to get into some bowl game, even if it's a mediocre one.</p>

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Similarly, Arizona State also went just 7-5, and the same losing record in the conference (4-5), also finishing 5th in the Pac-10, yet ASU still made the Aloha Bowl

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<p>Oops, I meant the Hawaii Bowl.</p>

<p>Nevertheless, the point stands that Cal still has an excellent chance to make it to *some * bowl game.</p>

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<p>USC will be a 2 loss team at best
Oregon State will be a 2 loss team if they lose to SC
Arizona State IMO will be ~ 2 loss team.</p>

<p>OREGON STATE??? GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR.. I THINK YOU MEAN OREGON!!!!!</p>

<p>Dude, Oregon had 467 yards of RUSHING!!!! That's pretty amazing, even if it's a against a terrible team!</p>

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<p>Sheed: lol at the Oregon thing. You guys are having a great year, but I hope you lose again bc then Cal would be ahead of you in the conference due to head-to head competition, assuming they win-out.</p>

<p>Cal will go to a bowl game, my bet is the Sun-bowl, which goes to the third-place Pac-10 team.</p>

<p>voltage: I think Riley has the potential to be the best QB ever taught under Tedford. Anyone who saw that OSU game would know that he played really well, considering his inexperience, with the exception of the last play, a mistake I'm pretty sure won't happen again. If you don't have faith in the recruits, then you don't have faith in the coaches and the program. Just out of curiosity, how long have you been a true Cal fan? You obviously weren't one during the Tom Holmoe era.</p>

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<p>What's up with our field goal kicker, Jordan Kay? I shouldn't be freaking holding my breath every single freaking time we take a field goal, those are generally gimme points.</p>

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<p>Jordan Kay's legs are being held together by nuts and bolts, from what was reported in the Daily Cal a couple weeks ago. NO I AM NOT A HARDCORE CAL FAN, and never will be. We have a chance, we blew it, just like this school, brings too many disappointments with people who only care about themselves. I like sports as much as the next person does, but with a top program as good as OURS SHOULD BE, I am not questioning the coaches or whatever, but I'm saying that the way we are playing, it just seems really SOFT, we have no killer instinct. While this is just college and there is nothing involved ($$$), it still takes so much out of one person to have so much faith in your team and to have it all be gone. We've had a lot of disappointments, Rodgers, Ayoob, Levy, now Longshore and Riley. No team wants to kick to Djack, Forsett is strong, but we need to pitch to him on the outside at least once to utilize his speed to get those goal-line TD's. Best WILL be good, but he needs to work on HOLDING onto the ball. But whatever, as I have said before, these are my own personal opinions. My hope and faith in this year's team has gone down the drain, and from the play of Stanfurd, I might even go out and say we MIGHT even lose the big game this year, THATS HOW MUCH FAITH I HAVE GOT IN THIS TEAM RIGHT NOW, UNTIL PROVEN WRONG. </p>

<p>So for whomever that wants to argue, o we have a good coach, o it was just a bad game, o the other team was better. I've heard it all and this is my OPINION, you can agree to disagree, but I don't want anyone to say that I can't have a view or an opinion of what can/might happen in the next couple weeks.</p>

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<p>yeah, I agree, I think that's why Tedford wanted to gain a few more yards on that last play</p>

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<p>You didn't understand what I said there. I said sans the ONE fumble.....and the incompletion here and there. Incompletions here and there, like I said, aren't a big deal in CFB, they happen very frequently.</p>

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<p>I'm glad you caught that, but if you knew anything about the opponent you traveled six+ hours to see you would have known our QB situation has been under much fire recently. Just two weeks ago both our top two scholarship QB's were out with injury and our third string WALK-ON was left to play against ND. So, unless you knew the context, it would be very easy to say "that's good, seeing that he IS the quarterback." To us fans, it's not that easy to say.</p>

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<p>Like I said, he got open often and caught an easy catch(which isn't hard given our pass defense). I'll give that to him, all I'm saying is after all we heard about this dude and his Heisman talent, I expected more. Not to mention one of those TD catches was a two yard pass, again, he didn't have to do much to get that stat.</p>

<p>Just because I don't throw stats around doesn't mean I don't know what I'm talking about. I'm a casual fan who's commenting on how things were, so you can pick apart my details as much as you want but the big picture is still there. </p>

<p>And I'm confused as to how you can say your Bears lost it for themselves then gloat on how your star WR had the game of his season. Doesn't compute..</p>

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<p>I think UCLA played a good game. They caught the Bears off guard with that trick play, which was nice either way, regardless of the pass interference call. Our defense was not on point AT ALL and UCLA studied tape of our pass-screen up the middle DEFENSE. We can't tackle, our secondary lets wayyyyyyy too many people slip by, and our SPECIAL TEAMS just sucks. Now I know why Tedford elected to squib kick before halftime, BECAUSE HE HAS NO FAITH IN THE SPECIAL TEAMS. Now think about that for a second.</p>

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<p>Sure it computes. Our receiver had one of the best games of his career, but our defense was weaker than usual, our kicker missed a field goal, our QB uncharacteristically threw 3 int's, and we had 3 fumbles. Turnovers are very rarely caused by the other team; rather, it is due to a lack of focus. </p>

<p>One of Jackson's catches, that "two yard TD", he caught despite a blatant pass interference by your defender. The other TD, he burned your safeties on; they thought it was a run play.</p>

<p>voltage: I definitely agree with you about our D. I think Tedford has faith on our receiving end of special teams, but not the defensive part.</p>

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<p>Gawd, I hope Cal doesn't end up going to the Emerald Bowl and losing like UCLA did last year.</p>

<p>Now, the pressure is off. Cal needs to refocus and knock off ASU.</p>

<p>Yes, Longshore is only a junior. He needs to get that ankle better. He had no mobility and was a sitting duck for UCLA's fast defense.</p>

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<p>I agree UCB. If Cal refocuses, they can still have a great year.</p>

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<p>"Turnovers are very rarely caused by the other team; rather, it is due to a lack of focus."</p>

<p>i cant believe some of the things you're saying. you really need to get your head out of your butt. as said earlier, that interception by verner was because of studying film, not because of some mental error by longshore.</p>

<p>"The other TD, he burned your safeties on; they thought it was a run play."</p>

<p>brandon breazell and dominique johnson did the same thing to your D as well. heck, i believe we ran three different variations of that play for positive yards.</p>

<p>im not here to start a flame war or anything. the bottom line is that you guys lost. no excuses. just get ready for next week and play. im sure you guys will do well against asu.</p>

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<p>DEFENSE is the MAIN REASON why there are so many turnovers. I agree with you that the last INT was because of studying tape and learning Longshore's habits of when he pivots and throws. But seriously, with how we are playing right now, even the worse of the worse can beat us. It doesn't matter what the coaches or players say "WE ARE LOOKING FORWARD TO NEXT WEEK, WHATS DONE IS DONE" blah blah blah, if they didnt care, why did we see the SLAMMING OF THE PLAY SHEET AND THE SLAMMING OF THE HEADPHONES????????</p>

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<p>Cal is 18th in the AP Poll and 20th in the USA Today Coaches Poll. Not as bad as some people thought (i.e. some people thought we would def. be out of the Top 25)</p>

<p>Some crazy stuff needs to happen for us to go to the Rose, like someone else said, if...</p>

<p>USC beats Oregon, then wins out
Cal beats USC, then wins out
ASU loses to both Cal and Oregon and/or USC
UCLA loses to these three: Oregon, USC, and ASU</p>

<p>We'll have USC with two losses, Oregon with two losses, ASU with two / three losses, UCLA with three losses, and Cal with two losses, but wins over USC, Oregon, and ASU. Whew. Then Cal would be the front runner to win the Pac-10.</p>

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<p>^Those scenarios are very plausible so i dont think the rose bowl is out of sight yet</p>