<p>Please don't mistake this for a self-righteous holier-than-thou comment, but I don't identify with the "missing out on the typical college experience" line. I don't like to think of Princeton as a place where getting hammered is the way to live it up, and if you're not a heavy drinker you'll be ostracized in your sub-free dorm knitting with a couple of other loners. I don't think it'll really be "missing out" on all that much. But, perhaps I am naiive.</p>
<p>I'm in single-sex (no, I didn't request it), so I know Campbell entries 1 and 2 are all girls (Mathy), and usually (not every year, but most) are, and they are definitely some of the prettiest rooms on campus (huge, bay window, fireplace...think quintessential pton dorm room and that's pretty much mine..haha, sucks to be in butler, lol). It's ok, pretty quiet...kinda wish there were a few boys around, but whatever. And most of my friends who aren't in sub-free (one of my best friends is, but she didn't request it) do keep alcohol in their rooms. it's not like people are always drinking, but keeping some vodka or whatever around for pre-gaming is pretty common, especially if you're a boy. No pressure really to drink though, least not that I've seen, unless you're in a frat or something, and even then, it's not too bad and I know a couple frat guys who don't drink, so don't worry if you're not a heavy drinker (I'm definitely not), it won't be any big deal.</p>
<p>1915 is also single sex, half of the building for each sex (seperated by an archway)</p>
<p>the subfree areas tend to stay the same, and aren't always better than the nonsubfree (especially true in wilson and butler, however forbes with the main inn is a lot better than normal housing) I'm not sure what theyre going to do next year, as in atleast wilson, most of the subfree rooms were not taken willingly during roomdraw. People in subfree do drink and they also keep alcohol in their room, you just can't throw up in the bathrooms or have a party. Not everyone in nonsubfree housing drinks either. Although we drink, my roommates and i have never had a party, or kept much alcohol in our rooms, as we'd rather have the mess and the party somewhere else. It's basically a matter of luck with roommates</p>
<p>I just dropped by to see how the class of '10 was faring and saw you had posted here -- glad to see you aren't complaining about your terrible roommates in that sub-free housing!</p>
<p>I never knew how Dizzyson ended up in sub-free -- I thought he had requested it, but he says he didn't. He happens to be sub-free himself (or he was before he left for Pton -- I haven't asked for any details since) </p>
<p>I'm actually more curious about how it's going with eight guys and keeping that one bathroom clean...</p>
<p>I definitely have the best roommates (including dizzyson) ever, so worry not, sub-free does not throw you in a room with a bunch of tight-lipped, old-man-pajama-wearin' prudes. We still manage to have our fun, alcohol or no alcohol :)</p>
<p>No comments on the no-alcohol part :p</p>
<p>But going sub free hasn't affected my fun at all.</p>
<p>I wouldn't choose to live in sub-free. I think there's a low probability of my doing substances in my room , but imagine the kind of people who would sign up for sub-free...they to me seem like the less open-minded and more judgmental types...People who are absolutely sure they won't drink/do drugs/smoke, and who keep their rooms really clean, and who study a lot. This is shameless stereotyping, but consider it. i don't mean it too negatively. But the kind of people who go sub-free are the ones who wouldn't do substances and who expect their roomies to have such standards themselves. I personally would prefer a really liberal (not in the political way) roomie.</p>
<p>^ lol - I think it is more close-minded to stereotype the types of people who live in sub-free than it is to choose to live somewhere in which alcohol won't be as big a part of the social scene. </p>
<p>Yes, you are probably more likely to get an excessively strait-laced roommate in sub-free than you are in regular housing. However, by the same token, you are more likely to have a roommate who sexiles you every night in regular housing than you are in sub-free. Either way, its a crap shoot. If your roommate is a reasonable person, than regardless of where you live, he or she will be respectful of whatever you do as long as it doesn't interfere with others too much. If your roommate is a jerk, than he or she will likely complain no matter what the stated rules are, since living together always involves some compromise.</p>
<p>I'm just amused that jimbob associates neatness with closed-mindedness. For example, my sister is a slob, but she's quite opinionated and inflexible.
I'm fairly certain that my roommates don't drink elsewhere on campus, but I honestly wouldn't care if they did, as long as it didn't affect me.
I think sub-free attracts people who prefer a quiet atmosphere so they can sleep and study in their room without distraction. Perhaps jimbob considers this uptight?</p>
<p>Naw, just too uptight for <em>me.</em> Sorry for all the stereotyping..I'd just go sub-free. Good luck finding suitable roomies, you guys, you certainly won't need it. You seem like a thoughtful, careful, open-minded bunch! (seriously.)</p>
<p>All in all, don't sweat it too much because the differences are not extreme. Most people at Princeton are moderate in behavior; the only thing your sub-free decision will change is which extreme you don't have. In sub-free, you won't have the most inveterate partier. In regular housing, you won't have the super-straightlaced guy. But stereotyping is pointless, since both extremes are relatively uncommon. Finally, because your res college is assigned randomly, choosing sub-free or not will not predictably change the quality of your housing as a freshman -- in some colleges it's prime real-estate, in others definitely not.</p>