Who's going sub-free?

<p>I know I am!! <em>waves arm around</em></p>

<p>sub-free?........</p>

<p>hm, i just looked up what that meant, i was entirely unaware that such a thing exists and that princeton has it. though i have never had a drop of alcohol illegally or any sort of drugs, i doubt i will go sub-free for the simple reason that doing so tampers with the typical college experience. my opinion might be changed if my roomate ends up being a drug addict or something...</p>

<p>Hehe that's okay. I just want sub-free dorms -- party elsewhere so I don't need to clean up! :p</p>

<p>I plan on doing sub-free, and possibly even the single sex housing I heard was offered at Pton (?... I guess it's a women only dorm?... Or series of floors?). Does anyone know if the sub-free and single sex housing is at a particular residential college?</p>

<p>Oh, and while we're on the subject, how/when does Pton match up roommates?</p>

<p>I'm a freshman in sub-free. Not only do you get peace and quiet, but the rooms are generally better quality than regular housing. Every res. college as a sub-free areas, but I think they're all coed. By the way, you can still drink if you live in sub-free, just not in your dorm.
Princeton will send you a fairly detailed survey to fill out so they can put you with compatible roommates.</p>

<p>I'm thinking about sub-free. I'll probably end up doing it.</p>

<p>about what percentage of pton students do sub-free?</p>

<p>I probably will go sub-free, though I certainly don't mind the co-ed :).</p>

<p>Amen, df14.</p>

<p>Euphraisie: sub free is offerred at every res-college; I'm not sure if single sex is. I know that one of the entryways of Cambell (part of Mathey) is all girls this year. It is not officially sub-free, but nearly all of the people in it requested both sub-free and single sex, so in effect it is.</p>

<p>I personally like living in sub-free. I get along incredibly well with my suitemates, something I think would have been less likely if I had roommates who were bigger partyers. My advice would be that if you are the type of person who thinks the Street will be a big part of your life, don't do sub-free. If you tend to like a quieter social scene, do it.</p>

<p>I'm in sub-free housing myself. There's nine of us in our suite and none of us are drinkers. This doesn't mean that we don't enjoy going to the Street or partying. It's just that we like to keep our living space and our party space separate. And clean bathrooms are definitely an advantage!
Overall, I have to say that our suitemate situation has worked out pretty well. I thought it would be a lot harder to live with 8 other girls :)</p>

<p>While I specifically asked for subfree housing and got it, I know that the University also put some drinkers in sub-free housing even though they didn't ask for it.
This is quite painful so hope it doesn't happen to you :p</p>

<p>I've considered it, but I worry that I'd miss out on the whole "college experience" by living in substance free housing... do any of you ever feel that way?</p>

<p>I got the impression that different dorms were sub-free every year. Is there any way we can find out which ones for next year?</p>

<p>sorry, i'm alrighty not dry :-P</p>

<p>Sub-free doesn't restrict your behavior outside the dorm, it only commits you to not drinking within the dorm and not allowing alcohol-related behvior to disurb your roommates. </p>

<p>frozen: i think it does change each year, but there will be some in each res-college. Some claim that sub-free people tend to get the best rooms; although that holds true in my case, I don't think it is a significant difference in general</p>

<p>Hahaha, sucha, I know exactly who you're talking about when you say being put in sub-free when you're not is painful...</p>

<p>In any case, I'm also in sub-free housing. Not exactly sure how I feel about it, since my sentiments have kind of changed since I arrived at Princeton. Nevertheless, the dorm is pretty quiet. It's nice not to have to deal with certain things involved with having alcohol in the dorm, but really think about whether you want to commit yourself to it before you sign up (which won't happen for several months to come).</p>

<p>do people really drink a lot in their (non sub-free) rooms?</p>

<p>I asked the Dean of one of the residential colleges about the process Princeton uses for dorm selection. First you should know if you are handicapped and require a wheelchair you will be placed in Forbes as it has wheelchair access. Probably won't affect anyone here but that's the deal. The funny thing about that is the distance from the rest of the campus.
When Whitman opens I am sure they will use it for the handicapped students.</p>

<p>Getting back to what the Dean said about selection.
A computer picks your college according to your preferences of sub-free or not. The new wing in Forbes was one of the sub free spots for the class of 09. Some of the other colleges have their own set aside areas.</p>

<p>What was really interesting was the Dean's admission of how they pair roommates according to the housing questionnaire. If you want quiet they will put you with another student that makes the same request. The Dean, Director of Studies and the Master of the College actually put the entire room assignment thing together (no easy task). He described them with a pile of questionnaires on the floor with them sorting through all of them.
I kid you not!</p>

<p>Here is more on sub free.</p>

<p><a href="http://facilities.princeton.edu/housing/a_undergraduate/_drawguide/resdraws.html%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://facilities.princeton.edu/housing/a_undergraduate/_drawguide/resdraws.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>"Residential College Substance Free Zones
Last year the pilot program in Rockefeller College was expanded to all five Residential Colleges. While the University has policies regarding the use of alcohol and illegal drugs, and where smoking is allowed on campus, these designated areas are ones where students actively choose not to use the prohibited substances under any circumstances. When making the decision to sign up for Substance Free housing, it should be remembered that the application for a Substance Free room is not simply a choice of a special living space, but a conscious decision to adopt a Substance Free lifestyle while occupying that room. This means that no alcohol, illegal drugs, tobacco products or incense may be in the room at any time; it also means that even if you go outside your dorm or off campus and consume these substances, you are still responsible for the effects of these substances on your behavior when you return, and the results of any disruptive effects your behavior has on other residents of your dorm.</p>

<p>Behaviors resulting from the use of these substances that are deemed disturbing to other residents include, but are not limited to, causing a commotion in hallways, entries, common spaces, bathrooms or student rooms in the substance free housing area or its vicinity; leaving a mess in the bathroom or hallway and not cleaning up after one's self; and violating the spirit and intention of the substance free housing area.</p>

<p>Residents of substance free housing are also responsible for ensuring that their guests obey these guidelines; whether or not a substance has actually been used in substance free housing will not be a consideration when assigning disciplinary action if these items are discovered. Residents of substance free housing who violate the substance free housing agreement will be subject to a warning on the first offense, and re-assignment out of substance free housing on the second offense.</p>

<p>Students interested in living in this area must contact their Residential College, office by March 1, 2006 in order to become eligible. Signing up for this draw obligates you to draw in the substance free area. The substance-free living area in each college is as follows: More information is also available at your Residential college office.</p>

<p>Butler College</p>

<p>Lourie Love</p>

<p>Forbes College</p>

<p>2nd floor rooms 201-272</p>

<p>Mathey College</p>

<p>Blair basement and entries 4-9</p>

<p>Rockefeller College</p>

<p>Buyers</p>

<p>Wilson College</p>

<p>Dodge Osborn (2nd floor & room 111) and 1939"</p>