Why are Cal SAT scores low?

<p>Well if my grades are any indicator
I didn’t prepare for much of anything
I did take some practice tests, probably most of them in the collegeboard book, but never any type of class/tutoring
And I only took it once fwiw</p>

<p>Also, I don’t discount the people who “studied” hours upon hours for that test and got perfect scores. It’s not like anyone can just study a lot and do really well on it</p>

<p>Everyone at Berkeley has something to contribute to the campus. If you get to know many people there, you’ll find that many are very intelligent and have their own uniqueness that contributes to the campus. Cal is definitely NOT like high school, you’re one of the 13,000+ other freshmen students at Cal. </p>

<p>If you’re asking if you’ll be “smarter” than most people at Cal…then to be honest, no. There will be someone “smarter” than you- this is not high school anymore.</p>

<p>Posting a thread with a misleading, controversial title with the intent of attracting more attention is not likely to get you helpful responses. I’m not sure why you would think that this is a good idea, and this is not indicative of a healthy attitude.</p>

<p>In any case, we have no idea whether or you will be “smarter” than most people at Cal, for the standard definition of “smart” (which I am not a fan of). SAT stops being relevant once you start here, and eventually so does being a spring admit.</p>

<p>How much you’ll have to study will depend on 1) your study habits, 2) the difficulty of the classes you take, and 3) your innate intelligence. You should only worry about 1) and 2), as worrying about 3) (what this thread seems to be about) is not useful as you can’t even change it. If you don’t deal well with stress, then you should take a fairly light courseload (three classes plus a seminar would do) your first semester to test things out and then go from there.</p>

<p>You may want to stop blasting people cause they had a lower SAT, while at the same time you need to study at all to do better than B+ in high school. You’re simply gonna have to work harder and handle stress better in college. Deal with trauma the same as anyone else and seek therapy. Don’t bring your baggage with you if at all possible.</p>

<p>Alright thanks bros
Is there a way to delete this thread</p>

<p>You will be fine.</p>

<p>Your high school GPA is a pretty good indicator of what your college GPA will be, honestly, unless you do something really stupid, which you won’t.</p>

<p>Don’t worry. No you won’t be ‘smarter’ but you can do the work or they wouldn’t have admitted you.</p>

<p>good luck.</p>

<p>If you want to delete the thread or change the title? Contact the moderators.</p>

<p>Can I just let this slip into oblivion</p>

<p>No more comments from now on</p>

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<p>Yeah dude, you’re bringing a crud storm upon yourself. No one here knows you which is good for you, but if your attitude in real life matches the one you are projecting on this thread, be prepared to have a bad time at Cal.</p>

<p>All these people saying how GPA is the better indicator of academic success have no idea what they are talking about. </p>

<p>GPA is a very variable factor- getting a 4.6 from a low-ranked crappy public school is extremely different from a 4.6 at a top-notch public or private school. </p>

<p>I had a 3.75 Weighted UC GPA and I got admitted to Cal. I had a 2310 on my SAT, a 800 on my SAT II Math, and a 780 on my SAT II US History. I received 5s on all the AP Tests I took. I had a lower high school GPA because</p>

<p>1.) I focused a lot on extracurriculars (basketball), and wrote about that on my app</p>

<p>2.) My high school was very tough. It was ranked the second highest public school in CA when I attended (look it up- it’s called Troy High). In fact, some courses were more difficult than those I’ve taken at Berkeley. </p>

<p>I majored in Political Science and graduated with a 3.85 GPA at UC Berkeley. Keep in mind the median Pol Sci GPA is around a 3.3. I scored a 171 on the LSAT, and I’m attending NYU law school. </p>

<p>Most of my friends who had high school GPAs but SAT scores in the 2000s-2100s performed worse than I did at Cal, just saying. </p>

<p>The SAT isn’t perfect by all means. But it does offer a degree of standardization that GPA does not. I think AP scores are the best indicators personally, followed by SAT II scores, and followed by the SAT I/ACT.</p>

<p>Honestly, it is not really that difficult to get at least a 2200 on the SAT I. Hard work, smart work, and due diligence is all that is needed.</p>

<p>In many low-ranked public high schools, it is very possible to get straight As with minimal academic effort. When that same level of effort is applied to the SAT I, the score isn’t that high. </p>

<p>In my opinion, you will do fine. You will definitely NOT be the smartest person at Cal by a long shot (we have an 11 year old kid majoring in Bio!!!), I would say you would be much stronger than the average Cal student. </p>

<p>Cal is a great graduate school. Cal has amazing professors. The GSIs, while they might not be the best at teaching, generally know their stuff. The undergraduates, however, are largely mediocre. </p>

<p>Just my 2 cents</p>

<p>^^^ reps
on wait wrong forum</p>

<p>Thanks for that post though
Very helpful
nice LSAT score</p>

<p>I sincerely hope this thread does not disintegrate into a “is the SAT a good indicator of intelligence?” thread.</p>

<p>…Because obviously it’s not.</p>

<p>Fact of the matter is…no one after high school cares at all about high school test scores…and test scores for entry into grad schools (with the exception of law school, maybe) are not nearly as important as test scores for entry into undergrad schools.</p>

<p>In college, you’re going to realize that all sorts of people have all sorts of different strengths and weaknesses. Some people are extremely smart, but not the academic types. Some people are extremely academic, but not the extracurricular types. People have different priorities in college, and you’ll finally realize that quantitative measurements like the SAT (and - god forbid - even your undergraduate GPA) often mean nothing.</p>

<p>The sooner you get out of your immature high school mentality, the better off you will be at Cal. Cal is tough, and your success on the SAT is not a good predictor of how well you will do in a job interview, in a research setting, or in a group midterm project.</p>