Why aren't Indians considered URMs?

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In my opinion, I think the Indians who came to USA straigh from India are more active than American born Indians. I would also assume there are more Indian born Indian students than American born indian students in MIT.</p>

<p>I am a real Boollywood fan but not sure the difference between Hindu and Indian.
Is Hindu related to their religion? or is it related to their citizenship For example Hindustani means The Citizen right?</p>

<p>spanish</p>

<p>Good for the spanish people!</p>

<p>Lol, if only it was just passing by some academic filter for us URMs :(</p>

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<p>I think the sentence before the one you quoted is truer (“To maintain and enhance this diversity, MIT makes a special effort to recruit and admit highly qualified candidates…”). </p>

<p>I am, actually, perfectly capable of reading what is written on the admissions website. Based on my experience over the past six admissions cycles at CC (and without too much of a confirmation bias, I hope), it does not seem to be an accurate statement.</p>

<p>At any rate, this is not evidence for the original assertion that MIT’s admissions office is “tak[ing] a national population percentage, compar[ing] it to the numbers at MIT and us[ing] that as guidance for admissions.” This is evidence only that MIT makes an effort to recruit students from four specific groups that have been historically underrepresented at MIT, as well as in science and engineering in general. Furthermore, it is unrelated to the original topic of the thread.</p>

<p>The OP’s question: I’m from a minority group, and my minority group isn’t doing well locally, why aren’t I a URM?</p>

<p>The answer: you aren’t a URM because the number of your minority group has a high percentage at MIT, compared to the percentage nationally, therefore you are an ORM.</p>

<p>How is it not all about numbers, Molly?</p>

<p>Oh, and to be very clear: the reason all this ORM-URM stuff matters is because URM’s get a different admissions process, as stated by the MIT admissions department.</p>

<p>Perhaps it will make everyone feel better to know that my son, a URM with a 2360 on the SAT in one sitting and a 3.8ish GPA at an extremely competitive high school, was deferred. Although he is technically URM (hispanic), it was quite easy for the adcoms to figure out from his application that he has been in no way disadvantaged growing up. </p>

<p>I am sure they lumped him in with all the other really smart kids that haven’t won any major competitions or done major research and just deferred him. And this is how it should be. </p>

<p>I think the ADcoms are smarter than you people are giving them credit for.</p>

<p>Soomoo, my son’s two hispanic friends (both 4.0UW, high SAT’s, leadership, etc.) had the same experience last year. Well, actually they were rejected come March, and I hope your son isn’t. But take hope, they both earned big merit money at other top-25 universities.</p>

<p>@geomom</p>

<p>Yes, I am expecting a rejection in March, although he is still holding out hope. He did get accepted EA at Chicago though and that is another great school in another great city. Unfortunately MIT is still his first choice.</p>

<p>Hahahahahaha… Indians are the Model Minority lololol!!!</p>