<p>citygirlsmom, perhaps you mean you see kids that applied to all of the UC's, but i know no person who applied to all of the UC's and all of the Cal State's. Keep in mind that there are what, 23 cal state university schools in existence. I know many that applied to most of the UC's and a few Cal state's, a few who applied to only cal states, many who applied to only UC's . . . we got range in cali.</p>
<p>Winning the lottery through the California Common App... haha I like it!</p>
<p>Anyway, it balances out. The UC's at the very top have low acceptance rates, but the UC's at the bottom have ballooned acceptance rates. You ask why the acceptance rate is so low when its incoming freshmen statistics are lower than other elites. The answer is why the acceptance rate is so HIGH for the lower-ranked UC's even though it has incoming freshmen statistics that are better than other colleges that are lesser regarded.</p>
<p>I agree, with DRab. I don't even know that many people who have applied to ALL the UC's. After all, cc is a rather small and self-selecting sample space. </p>
<p>I personally applied to only 3 UC's and 0 Cal States. I was an ELC, so I was guaranteed admission to UCI or UC Merced. I ended up applying to UCI and UC Berkeley...and to UCLA just to have one extra. You can find any variety of combinations of applications.</p>
<p>stambliark - I didn't know of the quotas at the UC's, thanks for that info. I'd love to go to USC, and from the sounds of it, I may have a better shot being out of state. But of course, USC, Spoiled Children, I doubt I could afford that. My parents don't have, or don't want to spend that type of money.</p>
<p>geminihop - i'm from Michigan, a long ways away. I've never been to California, but would love it, from some things i've heard. I'm concerned about 1) the cost of a California school and 2) the safety, as i've heard when you go off campus, areas aren't too safe. I don't think my chances are too good being from Michigan though, especially w/a 3.63 GPA, although I have a VERY tough schedule.</p>
<p>Also, about the ACT... a 29 on the ACT is about a 1950-2000 comparable on the new SAT (1300-1325 on the old), looking at colleges who have a 29 as their mean ACT. I don't know the SAT range for the upper-level UCs, but wondering if I have a shot. I was told that it would be a major reach at both Berkeley and UCLA, two of the schools i'd like to go to.</p>
<p>Safety varies everywhere...each UC is very different in terms of location, wolves. UCLA is in the middle of Westwood with Bel-Air Mansions down the street...</p>
<p>A2Wolves6, the UC's dont' exactly have quotas (according to anyone's knowledge).</p>
<p>As to USC, it probably costs less than Yale or Stanford from the base price. They're all around 45K without financial aid, though. Some are 40k, some are 45k, but they're all in the area.</p>
<p>As to cost, any private school is going to be about 40k, any public also about 40k. Would you qualify for aid? Going to a school outside of your state is going to cost around the same no matter what. If you're concerned about cost, isn't U Mich - Ann Arbor supposed to be great? Many kids use it as a backup for UCLA and Berkeley, and it is supposed to be one of the best publics along with Berkeley, UCLA, and Virginia.</p>
<p>Your score is just one part of the application, but yes, a much higher score would be very helpful to you. The test score is just one part of the app, but a solid 2100 or higher would make you an overall much stronger applicant. There is still hope, though, as long as the rest of your application is great.</p>
<p>Just a correction to an above poster: eligibility in local context (ELC) only applies to the top 4% of the graduating class of California high schools, not 12.5%. The 12.5% figure, I believe, is the goal of the entire system to serve the top 12.5% of California high school seniors.</p>
<p>ucapplicant05, i'm aware that elc is 4% and that 12.5% is the goal the system is trying to serve. I see now that my post was extremely poorly worded.</p>
<p>DRab- thanks for the comments. I doubt i'd qualify for aid, i'm not poor by any means, but my family only has an annual imcome of 40K. Still, we have a lot of money tied up in the bank, live in about a 300K+ house, and own 4 cars. So it's unlikely i'd get any aid.</p>
<p>Don't get me wrong, U-Mich Ann Arbor is my #1 choice. I'm from A2. But I don't know if I am going to get in there, because they have a certain "Michigan GPA" that hurts me. They get rid of all grade boosts, and pluses and minuses. So my B+'s in AP History, AP English, AC Geometry, AC Algebra, and AC French are all being counted as a 3.0 in my GPA. That really hurts.</p>
<p>Current admissions information for the UC's: <a href="http://www.universityofcalifornia.edu/admissions/undergrad_adm/selecting/camp_profiles.html%5B/url%5D">http://www.universityofcalifornia.edu/admissions/undergrad_adm/selecting/camp_profiles.html</a></p>
<p>Note that (a) these are stats for admitted students, not applicants, so it doesn't matter who applied or how many, these are the stats of the admitted class, not the applicant pool, and (b) each UC school has it's own set of criteria for admissions, much of which can be viewed by clicking the link at the bottom of each school's profile page. Note the differences amongst the schools. For example, while both schools give a maximum score of 4500 for gpa, UCSD caps test scores at 3200 while UCD caps at 4000. Does this mean that after 3200, it doesn't matter how high you raise your SAT scores? Say you got 2200 on SAT I's. If you only get 500 on each SAT II (for a total of 3200), is that treated the same at UCSD as the kid who got 2200 on SAT I's and two 800's on the SAT II's?</p>
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you're going to have a hard time applying to 12 UCs, considering the fact that there are only 10. 11 if you count UCSF, but that doesn't really apply to undergrads.
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<p>Well, actually, there are 12 UC's. You forgot about Hastings. </p>
<p>Nevertheless, there are only 10 UC's that serve undergrads.</p>
<p>UCB, UCLA, UCSD, UCD, UCSB, UCI, UCSC, UCR, UCM = 9 undergrad
UCSF, UCH = 2 grad
I count 11 UCs total, 9 of which are undergraduate.</p>
<p>Ha! Sakky and I are both idiots. Even though I have a hard time counting past 10 (unless I take off my shoes), the poster will still have a hard time applying to 12 UCs. Whats the deal with Hastings?</p>
<p>Hastings is the law school.</p>
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UCB, UCLA, UCSD, UCD, UCSB, UCI, UCSC, UCR, UCM = 9 undergrad
UCSF, UCH = 2 grad
I count 11 UCs total, 9 of which are undergraduate.
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<p>Well, actually, UCSF used to have a very small and specialized BS program in the Dental School. So technically speaking, you did have to count UCSF as a school that "serves" undergrads. You can still see the program being reference at the general UC website. However, I believe the program was recently discontinued. </p>
<p>Nevertheless, it will be pretty darn hard to 12 UC's for undergrad.</p>
<p>isnt it true that for the fall of 2007 applicants the UC's are changing the minimum gpa requirment (in state) from 2.8 to a 3.0
That would obviously mean a lot less applicants, would by any chance the acceptance rate change due to the lower number of appilcants. Or would it be even harder to get accepted to UCLA/UCB/UCSD</p>
<p>Because tons of Californians apply, and there are a lot of kids in california. Since the # of accepted students is static and small, a big applicant pool results in a low acceptance rate. Given the shared application of the UC's, it is easy to spam all of them in one go.</p>
<p>The 2.8 GPA doesn't really apply to Cal or UCLA, so I don't think those two (or UCSD) will have any noticable changes, but it will change the the acceptance rates to schools like UCI, UCM, and UCSC.</p>
<p>The %-accepted number doesn't mean much anywhere. A lot of schools where the average SAT is 1050 have acceptance rates of only 25%.</p>