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damn my teensy A-cups! No, I think most men prefer bigger boobs - as in C cups. let's be honest here...who like's small boobs? even I don't like small boobs and I've got 2 of 'em.
<p>Hm...noticing a pattern? And yes, these are all real girls. :X</p>
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why do high heels = lies? are you another short dude who's worried about women towering over him?
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Actually, I'm six feet tall. And I still think high heels are completely pointless, other than being deceptive and ergonomically unhealthy.</p>
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why doesn't makeup = lies as well?
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It does. I didn't mention it because I didn't want to go off-topic, but make-up and high-heels are two of my biggest pet peeves, along with fake hair (euphemistically called "highlights", no?), fake eyelashes (ugh), and fake nails (which don't even look good in the first place).</p>
<p>I guess I'm just the kind of sick bastard who appreciates honesty. >_<</p>
<p>how are they deceptive - they make you look taller, but everyone can see you're wearing heels...who cares? I usually wear flats, but heels are better for dressy occasions, or for when you want to look nicer. Plus many shorter women like to look taller. Is wearing contacts instead of glasses deceptive? What about braces instead of living with crooked teeth? What about lotion instead of dry-looking skin? What about shaving legs? What about push-up bra's? or what about those things fat women wear under clothes to suck it all in?</p>
<p>Sorry, unless men decide they prefer short fat women with dry skin, glasses, hairy legs/underarms, flat chests, and crooked teeth, all women will resort to "deception." </p>
<p>So you only date women who are 100% natural? I doubt it. People often think i'm wearing no makeup when I am - because it's so subtle. but since you prefer flat chested women, maybe you prefer those other things as well? haha maybe it's because you don't watch TV so the women you see are more natural, everyday chicks :) nothing wrong with that I guess.</p>
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Is wearing contacts instead of glasses deceptive?
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Contacts serve a functional purpose.</p>
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What about braces instead of living with crooked teeth?
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Teeth straightening prevents future damage to the gums.</p>
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What about lotion instead of dry-looking skin?
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Keeping skin moist is important to do for health reasons.</p>
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What about shaving legs?
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I will admit, there is no purpose for shaving legs, other than cosmetic. But that's the problem - we've conditioned ourselves into requiring this deceptive practice. I can't imagine all men thought all women were ugly back before shaving was developed.</p>
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Indeed, deceptive.</p>
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what about those things fat women wear under clothes to suck it all in?
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Lol, UGH. Getting rid of these things would force them to actually lose weight, for realz.</p>
<p>Makeup and heels serve a functional purpose - heels to make you look taller, chic, dressier, and makeup to enhance looks. Both look silly when taken to extreme levels (women who clomp around in 6 inch heels all the time, women who cake their faces). and be grateful for the fat-sucker-inner-thingies, because lord knows we don't need to see any more muffin tops or beer bellies protruding out! :D</p>
<p>it's unreasonable for you to expect women to not wear makeup, and i bet most of your girlfriend's did as well. I have acne scars around my jawline area and a little on my cheek, and yeah, I cover them up, because scarring looks bad. sure, it's "deceptive" because it makes it look like my skin isn't scarred, but people usually think i'm wearing no makeup, and I feel more confident/pretty when I don't have scarred skin. hey, if you prefer your women flat-chested and hairy, good for you, bud. But most women tweeze our eyebrows a little, shave our legs, use some makeup, wear heels occasionally, etc, and most guys seem to appreciate this :)</p>
<p>and btw, it's not just done to please guys - I shave my legs when I don't have a bf, or throughout winter when I wear long pants, because I prefer smooth legs. I wear makeup because I like to have clear skin and feel ugly with scars. I wear contacts instead of glasses because...glasses look ugly.</p>
<p>^ it's not all done to "impress guys". We do it for ourselves, too. We like to feel well-groomed and feminine. Sometimes we like to put on a dress and heels and go out. We like the velvety feeling of smooth legs and not the yucky stubbly feeling. We like to cover our pimples/scars because they're ugly. We like the fruity scent of lipgloss and getting compliments on our hair. Or at least I do. </p>
<p>yawn - Isn't it deceptive of men to wear cologne? Sure, but it's better than us smelling your BO :)</p>
<p>I agree taller guys are sexy, 4321 (cool name)...not necessarily "tall", but at least a little taller than I am. slightly short is fine too, as long as he's not shorter than me. A nice face and personality is more important than height.</p>
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i don't know, but i always think taller guys are just sexy. if they're shorter, it's kinda like.. your little brother.
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Yes, because dating your older brother would be <em>so</em> much better.</p>
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yawn - Isn't it deceptive of men to wear cologne? Sure, but it's better than us smelling your BO :)
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Actually, a scientific study was released recently that concluded that relationships involving men who use cologne to hide their natural odors are easily susceptible to failure as soon as the girl experiences the guy's "real" scent. Certain scents arouse different hormones in different girls, so when guys wear cologne, they essentially f.u.c.k this system up. Basically, if a girl isn't attracted to a guy's natural, genuine scent, they ought not to be together. Using cologne to mask this biological lack of authentic compatibility only sets a couple up for failure.</p>
<p>hahah if you say so. Well, I guess we all have our own preferences...I prefer to be well-groomed, smell and look nice. I use a little makeup, and I get rid of unwanted hair. Women should do things because we want to, not because men want us to or don't want us to. If my boyfriend asked me to stop wearing makeup/heels, i'd be like, no, that's not for you to decide. </p>
<p>I once spent a month in a cottage in rural pakistan with my grandma and barely left the house during the day (it's like...110 degrees there in august). I barely saw any men except for some local goat-herders (and the milkman, but he doesn't count because he was like 100). Guess what, I still wore makeup and shaved. so yeah, it's not done to impress guys.</p>
<p>There are an increasing number of support groups for guys your height. I'm not going to lie-5'2 is really short. I'm 5'8 and I just recently got over my height. Rather, I accept that many women will not date me because of my height...there are many women I won't date for superficial reasons. Fair is fair.</p>
<p>But to everyone telling Lakrosse to get over his height-
yeah, right. The guy has every right to be frustrated, but he has to come to grips with reality. Telling him it's all in his head is really cruel. It's understandable that an 18 year old would want to be out dating, so of course he's going to complain. It's not his fault that he's 5'2. Just like it's not fair that some people have facial disfigurements (supposedly 1 in 150 people have a legitimate dis-figuration). Or just like it's not fair that a friend of mine was murdered at 21. Life is not fair.</p>
<p>What's your problem with heels? I guess it's since you're 6 ft tall, but we short women like high heels because we don't like constantly being shorter than everyone. If you were a foot shorter, you'd agree. Not that I wear them often, but they're nice sometimes. They're not deceptive because it's obvious I'm wearing them. Stop complaining about being "deceived" because everyone alters their appearance. Most men shave instead of growing out their beard/mustache, use hair product, deoderant, etc. Some men even pluck their eyebrows! If you want a woman who doesn't alter her appearance at all, good luck. She'll likely be a hairy troll with acne, who doesn't groom herself because it's so "superficial" :rolleyes: Men alter their appearance too, just not as much, because women really just want men who are clean, and have a decent body/face, whereas men expect much more. Unless you go around wearing old clothes with a full beard and your pits reeking of odor, you can't say you don't alter your natural self.</p>
<p>By the way, a pattern I noticed is your ex-girlfriends all have unusual names. I can't guess what any of them are!</p>
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By the way, a pattern I noticed is your ex-girlfriends all have unusual names. I can't guess what any of them are!
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Lol, well I definitely don't want to list all of the full names, but I will say:</p>
<p>L------e = Lorraine (not that common, but then again not that unusual)
K--u = Vietnamese
M--i = Mimi (ditto to Lorraine)
Y--o = Japanese
S---r = Pakistani</p>
<p>The non-Americanized names are a little more "rare" in the English-speaking world, but they're all pretty common in their respective cultures.</p>
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^ want some 'supporting evidence' for that 'misconception'? Ideal Female Height.</p>
<p>the ideal heights that are most commonly posted are above-average (read: Tall) for women.
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<p>All you did was prove that it was a misconception. Honestly I know very few guys that consciously go out looking for a girl exactly 5'6" or whatever height you seem to think guys look for. All we care about is that she's our height or shorter (sometimes a guy will even go for a girl slightly taller).</p>
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damn my teensy A-cups! No, I think most men prefer bigger boobs - as in C cups. let's be honest here...who like's small boobs? even I don't like small boobs and I've got 2 of 'em.
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<p>Most men prefer boobs, period. And nothing for you to be upset about--I personally prefer A and B cups.</p>
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Not sure why some of you here have the misconception that guys prefer tall girls.
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--from your earlier post</p>
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All you did was prove that it was a misconception. Honestly I know very few guys that consciously go out looking for a girl exactly 5'6" or whatever height you seem to think guys look for. All we care about is that she's our height or shorter (sometimes a guy will even go for a girl slightly taller).
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--from your later post</p>
<p>How does that prove that it was a misconception that guys prefer tall girls? The issue is not whether guys consciously look for taller girls, it's whether or not they would prefer taller girls to shorter girls ceteris paribus. Seeing as how the 'ideal' is almost by definition the preference, that thread does support the idea that guys prefer taller girls.</p>
<p>This is like asking whether people preferred red cars to blue cars... It's pointless for you to say that there is no preference either way since people care much more about the make and model of the car because the way the original statement is worded suggests that you are trying to judge the bias towards red or blue cars under the assumption that all else is created equal or held constant, otherwise the hypothesis can neither be proven or disproven.</p>