Why do ibanks care about Ivy brandname so much?

<p>^^ “QuakerOats415 likes this.”</p>

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That’s so cliche…

…but I agree with Quaker, that’s definitely For The Win.</p>

<p>or e-photos are creep status and she doesn’t want to get her daughter assaulted?</p>

<p>at least we know it’s not E; A contradicts B, C, and D :-P</p>

<p>Disclaimer: I’m a college sophomore. </p>

<p>Before we go off on hmom, her style may be a little patronizing, but for the most part what she has said has been completely accurate. I grew up in Manhattan and went to one of the private schools that hmom was likely referring to. Though my parents aren’t bankers, plenty of my friends parents (either mom, dad, or both) are, and I’m telling you, none of these are “dumb trophy wives”.</p>

<p>Also, I can tell you two things from the internship I’ve done at a BB. My program was almost perfectly split 50/50 by gender, and SEVERAL of the guys in my program noticed that many of the female analysts were quite attractive.</p>

<p>I think, as mario noted, that a lot of this board is conjecture, and certainly I’m no expert. That said, when hmom is allowed to answer legitimate questions instead of demands for pics of her children, she can be pretty helpful with accurate information.</p>

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<p>When I was in IB, the schools we recruited from were ~ 53/47 M/F but it still didn’t change the fact that the analyst classes of me and my three roommates were all at least 75%+ male; so things must have changed a lot. I didn’t get the impression that it was discrimination as much as much fewer girls wanted to do the job. In three subsequent positions to IB in IM, PE, HF I still haven’t seen anything close to a 50/50 ratio. Why should IB be any different?</p>

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<p>From friends who were analysts/associates at Goldman, that wasn’t the stories I was hearing. Maybe, they’ve changed policy in the last couple years?</p>

<p>^^^ GS is on a very active campaign to hire 10,000 women, and considering what you noticed about there not being a lot women in in the higher ranks (i.e. your analyst peer’s now), it would make sense that most of this is being done through on campus recruiting</p>

<p>I am just going to add just one more thing. What some guys have said on this thread would never have been allowed at work, even on the trading floor. We are all required to go to sexual harassment course and pass it. IBs can’t afford to have any liability, especially from some dime a dozen analysts or associates. As someone who is responsible for a business group’s IT, we are able to go through employee’s emails for inappropriate use of it. I could have anyone’s emails on my desk within one hour, and that would include deleted emails. The days of saying/writing anything derogatory about female employees are gone. “Same time”, IMs are all recorded at work, so are many phone lines(in case we need to play back for any confirmed trades). I would caution anyone who is doing internship or starting out on a new job to not express anything inappropriate at work.</p>

<p>Anyone who thinks Wall Street is split 50/50 has never stepped foot inside an investment bank, much less worked on a deal team.</p>

<p>If you had any reading comprehension skills, you’d see that its possible that none are conflicting. In the upper levels, wall street is very male dominated, but analyst level recruiters try hard to get close to a 50/50 balance when hiring. For example, my incoming SA class at a BB isn’t quite 50/50, but its close, and the firm has a lot of initiatives aimed at increasing gender diversity in banking. I’m sure others are similar.</p>

<p>what do you get out of posting here, polo?</p>

<p>i think the whole issue of dating other analysts is interesting, though. I know a lot of my friends who were interns or are analysts at banks now who are dating people from other banks, but I don’t personally know a single person dating within the same bank. Just seems like a recipe for disaster - what if you go through a particularly bad breakup and still have to see that person 80+ hours a week? not fun.</p>

<p>you bolded the wrong part. pureadvisory was talking about wall street as a whole, hmom was talking about analyst recruiting at her bulge bracket bank. two very different animals. i’m looking at the sa roster for my bank right now and its probably 55/45</p>

<p>that being said, i worked at a smaller middle market bank last summer and it was probably 80/20</p>

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Your logic is flawed. “Wall Street as a whole” that you say that PureAdvisory is referring to would **encompass **the “bulge bracket bank” that hmom5 was talking about.</p>

<p>Therefore, my question still stands. Which one of these three individuals is lying?</p>

<p>yes, but “wall street as a whole” also encompasses more than just the analyst classes. that was the point i was trying to make - at the upper levels, the gender disparity is pretty pronounced, but for analyst recruiting, its close to even, though not quite there, at least at the bank i’ll be at this summer</p>

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It is a recipe for a disaster. But check out these points of interest:

  1. Both cannot date within the same bank.
  2. Male investment banker works 80+ hours a week.
  3. Female investment banker works 80+ hours a week.</p>

<p>The question is are they really “dating” or are they just sleeping together? It’s quite a challenge to actually develop a long-term relationship when you’e both working on what is not necessarily overlapping 80+ hour work weeks.</p>

<p>Before we even go further, I think hmom5 would call you a liar on the bolded part. Perhaps you should sort that out with her:</p>

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I enjoy learning about investment banking.</p>

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<p>…Really?</p>

<p>Absolutely.</p>

<p>Why was my previous post deleted? Its not like I said anything offense.</p>

<p>Polo… please stop. No one cares about the relationship thing anymore. I dont think this forum is a credible source anyways given the amount of disagreement between posters.</p>

<p>Why would a guy want to marry an investment banking woman…how emasculating</p>

<p>I would hate to spend the rest of my life with a career driven A-type woman</p>

<p>hahahahahahahah that question had frustrated quite a few on this thread, but supposedly it isn’t all bad, that’s what hmom claims at least.</p>

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<p>Right, a classic career driven, A-type woman. What else is she going to say? It is all bad?</p>

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Who knows. Maybe some guys want to be emasculated or maybe they want to be the woman be the man and the man be the woman. There’s no way to tell! Some people have extremely dysfunctional relationships and that’s there life choice.</p>