Why do people who intend to go into engineering care about getting into a top school?

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<p>Yet, AFAIK, Mark77 is indeed a CS graduate. Yet he seems to be faring notoriously poorly on the market and isn’t shy about saying so and assigning blame (IMO by scapegoating the H1B system). </p>

<p>So, as I requested before, perhaps you could provide a working plan of actionable, but non-obvious, steps that somebody like Mark77 - a CS graduate - could take to become a member of that cloistered 10,000 who seem to enjoy jobs galore. Then, if nothing else, at least we would have clearly helped at least one person on this forum. </p>

<p>But, as you acknowledged, even that wouldn’t help all of the non-CS engineers who suffer from career problems. That is, unless you’re willing to say that they should leave their engineering field entirely - or should never have majored in those fields in the first place. Is that in fact your ultimate recommendation: people should major in no other engineering field except for CS? </p>

<p>Yet sadly, a related career tactic is being pursued by plenty of our top engineering talent. Rather than not majoring in engineering at all, they will major in engineering…but then not actually work as engineers (at least, not for long), but will instead leverage their engineering degrees for careers in other fields such as finance or consulting (along with law, medicine, etc.). </p>

<p>Don’t get me wrong, globaltraveller. I’m intrigued by the notion that every engineering student - or at least the CS students - can indeed find cushy, high-paying jobs with undemanding supervisors where the number of jobs exceeds the number of applicants by 10X. And if such opportunities were truly available to them, then that would be an excellent reason for them to actually work as engineers (and for more people to major in engineering in the first place). But if those opportunities are not actually available, then it is entirely rational for engineering students to prefer not to work as engineers at all, but instead to prefer other careers such as consulting or finance. And that then speaks to (or rather undermines) the OP’s premise: for many people, the point of attending a top engineering school is to ironically not be an engineer.</p>