<p>Yo shravas, my bad lol.</p>
<p>I feeeeeel ridiculooouuusssss.</p>
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<p>So does that mean I was unlucky because my parents weren’t minorities?</p>
<p>No, you’re lucky they aren’t, because you would most likely be a truant of some sort, oblivious to higher education and the lives of other, more educated, people. The majority of black males don’t even graduate college. Most of those who do probably inch by.</p>
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<p>They ask so they can have high diversity numbers, gained through AA if nessisary. Unfortunately, this almost exclusively helps rich URMs. As they are already rich, they don’t really need the help.</p>
<p>Still doesn’t justify the fact that they have it easier on admissions</p>
<p>It’s fine to oppose affirmative action (I do and I’m a URM myself), just don’t adopt a bitter attitude towards ALL minorities, as if they’ve all cheated the system and they don’t deserve to be there like you do. I worked hard in high school, I’ve done well in college and I don’t owe anyone an apology.</p>
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<p>I would not suggest thinking about your parents that way. I did once, and I felt deeply shameful and learned to appreciate them for what they were.</p>
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<p>This is a good suggestion.</p>
<p>Stil unfair</p>
<p>You’re only about the hundredth person to say that this week.</p>
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<p>How are you all fine that someone else gets in easier admission jsut because of their race? This isn’t the 17th century, this is 2011</p>
<p>Wait… so it actually asks “Hey you - are you a minority?” That’s amazing. Please tell me where you applied. </p>
<p>If you mean that they asked for your “race”, then you are perfectly within your right not to self-identify. IIRC, you are not required to give your race for college admissions. For example, I did not give my race because I do not fit neatly into any categories. I am white, Hispanic, and Gypsy- which means I am a mutt to the nth degree. </p>
<p>As for the Native American tribe- many, many land-grant and other universities have free tuition programs for Native Americans (mind you, they still have to pay everything besides tuition). It’s because, you know, their land was stolen and we tried to exterminate a whole race of people. Nbd or anything… Oh, and how many people does this effect? Out of my U which has 40k+ students- a grand total of 7 qualify for the Native American scholarship. And even still, that’s only about 1/2 the cost of going to school here.</p>
<p>Might as well ask “Hey, are you a minority?”</p>
<p>That’s why that question is there.</p>
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<p>This is probably the most ignorant thing I’ve ever read on CC.</p>
<p>Top universities aren’t going to admit someone who is unqualified simply to meet a racial quota, if that’s your concern. Race notwithstanding, everyone who is accepted to a top university earned their place.</p>
<p>It’s not that they are unqualified… but they are less qualified and get the bump cuz of AA</p>
<p>I agree, it is unfair to a certain extent. But consider the alternative: if admissions to top universities were done on a strictly race-blind qualification system, URM’s would become severely underrepresented. Historically and culturally, Hispanics and African Americans on average are less successful in school than their white and Asian counterparts, for whatever reason. Affirmative action, as it stands, attempts to level the playing field. It isn’t the most efficient of methods, and it certainly isn’t the most fair, but it succeeds in offering opportunities for minorities who otherwise couldn’t find them. The system needs to incorporate some sort of socioeconomic attributes to achieve its intended purpose, I think, so that it isn’t abused.</p>
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source? Or is this just an ad hominem?
don’t you wonder why that is? Surely it’s not just something that’s happened?
it’s discriminatory and unfair. The negative effects of the absence of a policy that attempts in vain to “level the playing field” are preferable to the negative effects of the institution of a policy that is unfair, discriminatory, demeaning and racist.
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<p>Try harder.</p>
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<p>That’s wrong. AA gives unfair advantage to underqualified minority students. Granted, many minority students at top universities HAVE earned their place, and guess what the effect of AA on them is? They’re marginalized by bigots and racists who think these students have gained unfairly the spots of who they perceive to be members of the more deserving over-represented majority. And guess what the effect of AA on the under-qualified minority students is? They perform poorly in college and might not even earn a degree, which affects their personal self-esteem AND their future employment prospects. And the effect of AA on the institution itself is to lower prestige and to have to face problems caused by tension between the two extremes of students. Finally, in the case of professional degrees such as those earned in med schools and law schools, future clients of these ersatz degree holders suffer from substandard on-the-job performance.</p>
<p>It’s absolutely a lose-lose-lose-lose situation. No one benefits from AA.</p>
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<p>PioneerJones has some valid points that you just seem to ignore.</p>
<p>Cut the crap; it’s obvious you were rejected somewhere and are blaming it on AA because another less qualified individual from your school got accepted instead of you.</p>