<p>"They are easy to come by if you are a minority and dirt poor. I see plenty of dirty poor minorities getting full-rides who have no busy being in college in the first place. "</p>
<p>It’s not bad enough that they’re poor but they have to be dirty and have no busy (I assume you mean business) being in college?</p>
<p>Any state school worth going to won’t give you a lick of FA without AT LEAST 34+ ACT and 4.0 uw.</p>
<p>“It’s not bad enough that they’re poor but they have to be dirty and have no busy (I assume you mean business) being in college?”</p>
<p>Uh…I am a minority. And I meant dirt poor (typo). It is an expression.</p>
<p>Many of the minorities I see that get full rides flunk out of college because they came to school unprepared. I’m not saying minorities in general have no business going to college, but students who are ill-equipped to handle college. </p>
<p>I had a father who got a full-ride at Amherst, but he didn’t flunk out. He did well. But that was over 25 year ago, and he went to one of the greatest high schools in America. At my school, they are so desperate to keep minorities (retention rate isn’t great) they will give full-rides to many that are not even college-material.</p>
<p>And no, I will not edit myself. If you are offended, that is your problem, not mine! :)</p>
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<p>Not true. Far from it, actually.</p>
<p>What I mean to say is that the quality of the education (or the state school’s ranking/prestige if you prefer, goes up), the amount of FA offered goes down and the competition for that aid goes up.</p>
<p>Indiana and Iowa State offered me full-rides for a 32 ACT. Wisky will likely offer me very little–you needn’t look further than the average ACT scores at these schools to see why.</p>
<p>No disrespect to any school but I thought we <em>liked</em> rankings here on CC.</p>
<p>I still disagree. And I’m glad I go to school that looks at the entire package when giving financial aid, not just ACT/SAT scores. My test scores didn’t reflect my capabilities, and I went to a really tough high school. My 3.4 gpa at college prep was more like a 4.0 elsewhere (I went to public school in middle school and it was easy to say the least). And my first two years of college, I had a 3.9+.</p>
<p>I don’t buy into the hype of ranking and prestige. You can get a very good education in many schools that don’t rank so high. I have gotten a very good education at a school that gives financial aid out like candy to those that are poor and minority.</p>
<p>It is true that you can get a good education anywhere. What I’m saying is that if FA is your goal, state schools are not equal in the way they give it out–and as a general rule the state schools that are more competitive are going to hand out less.</p>
<p>God knows I dislike and misunderstand the East Coast elitism on this board. I KNOW there is more to a school than ranking. But I’m just telling it like it is.</p>
<p>PrincessBride, I am certainly not stalking you. When you post something so offensive that a person like blossom has to consider asking the moderators to intervene, it certainly does raise curiosity as to who would post something so offensive. I just briefly looked at your posting history out of curiosity.That’s all. Possibilities for someone posting as you did could be insensitivity, cluelessness or the desire to be purposely provocative. Glad to know the “dirty” thing was a typo. Thanks for clarifying .</p>
<p>Wisconsin is known to be terrible for any merit aid. They don’t need to give money to get good students. Need based is all one can expect.</p>
<p>I worked at a state U known for its commitment to “access.” Even this school does not give out full rides like candy! Dirt poor minority students are eligible for minority scholarships, but there are strings attached- they don’t just get them for the heck of it, and they don’t keep them if they don’t perform well (or attend mandatory study sessions …). Our state flagship gives money to dirt poor minority students … if they are excellent students with academic promise.</p>
<p>William and Mary gives a scholarship that covers instate costs of tuition/room/board… there are four (4) given out in each freshmen class.</p>