<p>sigh, the 18000+ actual applicants don't really care.</p>
<p>STRules:</p>
<p>sry, but you are incorrect and statwide data in California supports my suggestion. (Indeed, the Univ of California is actively considering dropping Subject Tests for that very reason.)</p>
<p>I agree with the OP. now only TWO schools require 3 SAT II’s–harvard and georgetown. it’s just ridiculous. if you’re harvard, you can pretty much do anything but georgetown? thats just arrogance</p>
<p>Georgetown has one of the hardest curriculums in the country when one considers that it is probably only school with 1350+ SATs that requires the completion of 40 units or five courses per term. If a prospective student cannot invest a few extra hours studying and taking some SAT II exams, they would be ill-suited to ever succeed academically at Georgetown. The school has to make some effort to gauge whether a student can meet these demands. It is really for the good of the applicant that Georgetown has this requirement. There is a method and not arrogance in what Georgetown requires.</p>
<p>thankfully nobody’s forcing you to apply to or even like georgetown! frankly this is ridiculous. if you don’t like it then don’t apply!</p>
<p>finally a good, passionate discussion!</p>
<p>My 2 cents:</p>
<p>JP26, your comment about attitude is off. I told my interviewer I was expecting admission and I told my teacher in school that “Georgetown severely undercuts my efforts and abilities.” Despite that attitude, I was granted admission to class of 2013.</p>
<p>My essay to penn was basically (paraphrased) “I’m god” and I’m now in the Joseph Wharton Scholars program (<30 kids from Wharton selected per year).</p>
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<p>As for the claimed disregard for statistics: GTown’s entire luncheon for accepted students was basically a bunch of inferiority-complex inspired statements about how they are catching up to Wharton. Kind of disgusting if you ask me…</p>
<p>Despite the overwhelming evidence in my post- I like Gtown a lot and considered it my school until Wharton accepted me RD. I’m just pitching some ideas to add to the debate ;)</p>
<p>God help us all since six current United States Senators, three current Governors, the Secretary of Defense, the National Security Advisor, one of the five Federal Reserve Board members, a current Supreme Court Justice, and the President of MIT had their abilities “severely undercut” while getting their degrees at Georgetown. With all these second raters in these positions of power it is no wonder the nation and world suck so bad today. Hopefully, all those “god Like” people at Penn will get it together and do better some day.</p>
<p>I just thank God (the real one)that the Georgetown guy who was IRS Commissioner and the one that was Chairman of the FDA are no longer in power. Those second rate “ungod like” people could have really screwed us all up with what they could do to tax regulations and approving killer prescription drugs. As the founder of Penn, Ben Franklin said, “there are only two certainties-death and taxes”, and Georgetown had control over each for a short while.</p>
<p>Seeing the hard copy of application, it mentions sending a photo. Does the online version also have that option?</p>
<p>How many colleges do that? Maybe they will recognize some from on campus visits, high school visits, etc.?</p>
<p>^columbia does the photo too</p>
<p>At Penn you have to have evidence of a bona fide miracle in addition to your photograph. I am not sure of the requirements but I bet the Joseph Wharton Scholars need three such miracles.</p>
<p>3 SAT IIs wasn’t that much of a burden…taking them back to back (which I did, and did really well) takes less time than the SAT I and they’re in subjects that you’re best at…I don’t think its terribly unreasonable to ask for three.</p>
<p>afv2092, I agree with that. Most qualified applicants will take at least 3 APs in a SAT II subject so it’s not a strain at all to put in a little more time and get your 750+ for something you studied to the point of nausea for the AP exam.</p>
<p>Did you all send in a PHOTO? Do you upload that in the application online, or send it in the mail?</p>
<p>Also, how important is the interview? How long was your interview?</p>
<p>-THANKS</p>
<p>Just found some of the kind of statistics that breed the sense of inferiority that our buddy necrophiliac found at the Georgetown reception. The 20 year performance for Georgetown for both the Rhodes and the Marshall scholarship is just truly disgraceful. See below. </p>
<p>Rhodes 1989-2008
1 Harvard 86
2 Yale 46
3 Princeton 30
4 Stanford 25
5 Duke 21
6 Chicago 19
7 Georgetown 15
7 MIT 15
9 Columbia 12
10 Brown 11
11 Dartmouth 9
12 Cornell 8
13 Northwestern 5
13 Penn 5
13 WUStL 5
16 John Hopkins 1
17 Rice 1</p>
<p>Marshall 1954-2009
1 Harvard 252
2 Princeton 119
3 Yale 107
4 Stanford 79
5 MIT 62
6 Brown 44
7 Cornell 31
8 Columbia 28
9 Dartmouth 25
10 Duke 22
11 Chicago 20
11 Rice 20
13 Georgetown 19
13 Northwestern 19
15 Johns Hopkins 14
16 Penn 6
17 WUStL 1</p>
<p>Had more prospective Georgetown students spent more time learning more material rather than studying for three SAT IIs the school would have had much better results.</p>
<p>Lol, 3 SAT II’s is nothing >.>.</p>
<p>Several classmates of mine, including myself, have taken 4 or 5 in order to see which tests would provide better scores.</p>
<p>Besides, 3 SAT II’s is perfectly reasonable. SAT II’s are separated into more or less three distinct categories: Sciences, math, and humanities. I don’t see the problem with requiring three (preferably one of each category). In my case, I’m sending Math II, Biology, and German to all my colleges =/. Its just another way for colleges to see how well-rounded students are.</p>