<p>we always hear about JC students talking about transfering to UCs.</p>
<p>most CSUs are ignored, which is understandable. </p>
<p>however!</p>
<p>cal poly SLO is a very prestigious school. why dont any other community college students ever think about going there?</p>
<p>does this strike anyone else as odd?</p>
<p>It is a good institution...no doubt...but lot of us give first preference to a UC system (esp the big 3 UCz) because they a little more recognized. Although, I must say Cal Poly is quickly gaining good reputation for engineering. But yes, cal poly's major reqs do not go well with the UC's major reqs...atleast, for my major it did not match...thatz y i decided not to apply there.</p>
<p>thats strange, because assist.org doesnt list any De anza to cal poly slo transfer agreements by major. why is this?</p>
<p>dude your a tutor at De anza? i frequent the math tutorial sometimes. can you PM me your name?</p>
<p>MasteroD, I don't tutor @ DeAnza...I used to tutor @ Mission as a math tutor...not this semester...you go to De Anza? What major are you?</p>
<p>As for Cal Poly and De Anza equiv..</p>
<p>simply open up the major reqs of Cal Poly frm their catalog
- <a href="http://www.calpoly.edu/%7Eacadprog/currdisplay2005-07.html%5B/url%5D">http://www.calpoly.edu/%7Eacadprog/currdisplay2005-07.html</a></p>
<p>Then go to assist and select your major department
- For CS: <a href="http://www.assist.org/web-assist/report.do?agreement=aa&reportPath=REPORT_2&reportScript=Rep2.pl&event=18&swap=1&dir=1&sia=DAC&ria=CPSLO&ia=DAC&oia=CPSLO&aay=02-03&ay=04-05&dora=CSC%5B/url%5D">http://www.assist.org/web-assist/report.do?agreement=aa&reportPath=REPORT_2&reportScript=Rep2.pl&event=18&swap=1&dir=1&sia=DAC&ria=CPSLO&ia=DAC&oia=CPSLO&aay=02-03&ay=04-05&dora=CSC</a></p>
<p>it has a freakin speech requirement heh</p>
<p>indie_boy by the big three are you referring to CAL, UCLA, and UCSB or UCSD? the last two are in close contention for the third spot.</p>
<p>I know of many cc students that go on to CSU's there's probably even more that go on to CSU's than the UC system just because admission is not as competitive and they generally have larger student bodies than at UC's. Just my opinion though I may be wrong but this is what Iv'e seen when comparing fact sheets and statistics for CSU's and UC's.</p>
<p>mex,
there is no competition between UCSD and UCSB...in fact, san diego is closing in on UCLA while UCSB is closer to davis.
secondly, a number of CSUs, notably the two cal polys, san diego state, and long beach state, are more selective than third tier UCs. more than half of the student body at either cal poly campus rejected UC admit letters.</p>
<p>First off.....who said they didn't. Your premise is terribly unfounded. I have three close friends who graduated in some aspect of engineering and they had ample opportunity to go to a "UC", but they chose not to. Furthermore.....just because many people chose a CSU doesn't mean anything other than they 1) wanted to save money; 2)wanted to go to a school that was more career-oriented; or 3) wanted to go to a school that was nearby and fit their schedule (as in working adults, etc who want to get their degrees).</p>
<p>As far as Cal Poly is concerned, I love the area, but that's only because my family owns large portions of land out there and I grew up there, but I've noticed that a lot of people just don't like the area, which is their loss, frankly.</p>
<p>I noticed this when I took a summer course last year at a CC. Many CC students didn't do very well in high school and want to prove that they can get into a good school. They want to have the "UC" name in front. It kind of means you "made it." A CSU, no matter how selective or highly ranked, just isn't going to do it for them. This is strictly anecdotal, and based off my class last summer.</p>
<p>SLO is known for mostly engineering. </p>
<p>Other than international students, most CC students are not engineering majors.</p>
<p>That should explain a big reason why not many people trasnfer there.</p>
<p>I do know a lot of international student that like Cal Poly Pomona.</p>
<p>SLO is known for many things such as the sciences, business, agriculture, architecture, journalism, and even some areas in the humanities. yes, the pomona campus has much more of an international feel than SLO. more than 70 per cent of the student body are people of color, with asians--mostly chinese--serving as the largest element of all.</p>
<p>wrt the reasons why students choose a cal poly campus over a UC, there are many. my only point, based on data from admissions officers at both campuses, is that the majority of admits also were accepted into the UC system somewhere as well. this of course is not true for most of the other CSUs.</p>
<p>I dunno, when i hear SLO, i always hear engineering. Never heard of anything else. </p>
<p>But for Journalism- SB, thats where Jim Rome and others big names went.</p>
<p>Agriculuture- I am pretty sure Davis is very strong for it.</p>
<p>Of course LA, Berk, SD are ahead of SLO in those areas.</p>
<p>SLO can compete w/ anyone in engineering, not sure about anything else. Since engineering from CC is not that popular compared to other majors, that why less students got there IMO></p>
<p>Architecture is actually the "best" major at SLO, prestige-wise. It's then followed by computer science.</p>
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<p>The big three UCs are Cal, UCLA, and UCSD. UCSB is a good school but it really does not tie in with UCSD. Infact, as drj points out san diego is closing in on UCLA. Overall it is doing very well. The UCSD engineering and science department and faculty there is top-notch ranking much higher than all the UCs except Berkeley.</p>
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<p>They're not allowed to be more selective. Each CSU school is REQUIRED to take all applicants who meet the statutory qualifications. Even the UC system doesn't do that -- they simply strive to offer admission to any UC school for each qualified applicant, and the qualifications for UC are more strict.</p>
<p>At CSU schools, the exception to that rule is for programs officially designated as "impacted." Most schools only have a few impacted majors -- for example, Cal Poly Pomona's architecture program and SLO's engineering programs. Applicants to these majors must meet elevated requirements.</p>
<p>Since other programs at those same schools must accept all qualified applicants, this tends to create a huge crunch for lower-division classes across the board. Because the UC system can refuse qualified applicants at one campus and force them to go to another (or find another option,) the UC system doesn't have the same problem to the same extent.</p>
<p>A big reason the CSU schools can be more attractive than the UC schools, as one poster pointed out, is money -- it's about one-third the cost for a California resident to attend a CSU school as a UC school.</p>
<p>Finally, another difference that may affect some students' choice of school is the amount of research that goes on. Each UC school places a high priority on faculty research and the quality of the graduate programs, and each UC school is world-class in certain research fields. (For example, Riverside has one of the best analytical chemistry research programs going on the west coast, Santa Barbara has a very strong theoretical particle physics group, and Santa Cruz had a fantastic program in literature for a long time.) CSU schools generally have had a teaching orientation, though I hear the pressure to publish is increasing.</p>
<p>Whether there's a rich research environment at a school might be a plus or a minus depending on whether you plan to participate in research as an undergraduate. If not, that the professors are committed to educating their students instead of worried about maintaining their research programs might be a plus for CSU.</p>
<p>Lots to consider, and it could well be a reasonable choice to go for CSU even if you're admitted by both systems and headed for a non-impacted major.</p>
<p>-- Mark</p>
<p>I was seriously considering going to a CSU until I heard about ten people say that Graduate Schools look down on applicants from CSU's. If this is true, I don't want to risk going to one and costing myself a spot at a top grad school. (Add to the fact that the dorms at the CSU that I was considering seriously, Fullerton don't include a meal plan......not an option!) Also, there is a speech requirement that the CSU's have that I'd like to avoid like the plague! </p>
<p>I've settled on Poli Sci as a major......Jewish Studies won't work out for reasons that are beyond my control.....</p>
<p>I think it's a stretch to say that grad schools "look down on" CSU applicants. Graduate school admission (certain professional programs like law and medicine aside) is so highly subjective in any case that going to CSU is unlikely to be the deciding factor in whether you're admitted.</p>
<p>High grades, excellent GREs, good research and work experiences, and strong letters of recommendation are what will get you into grad school, whether you're at CSU, UC, or anywhere else.</p>
<p>-- Mark</p>
<p>I'm looking at going to Law School.....</p>
<p>Azotic- Are all of CP SLO's programs impacted? It seems that every college in the university has more applications than spots and has much higher avg. gpa/SAT than required. Even in liberal arts, the acceptance rate is close to 25%.</p>
<p>Aviva- Here's a list of grad schools that have accepted cal poly students in the health professions. Looks like these CSU students still get into good grad schools.</p>