<p>Yes. My issue with Liberty “University” is different than my issue with University of Phoenix, etc.</p>
<p>Liberty “University” follows a far-right-wing religious ideology which does not respect scholary inqury, science, etc. I can’t give credability to a school that teaches that the earth is 6,000 years old and that dinosaurs and men lived at the same time, that Charles Darwin was a minion of Satan, and that 9/11 was god’s wrath for American’s acceptance of homosexuals, etc. etc. etc.</p>
<p>That’s also your opinion. They are fully accredited and remember… There are tons of Christian Colleges out there. Hundreds… Of which share similar sentiments. Plenty are in the work force and very successful. So while you personally have a problem with them… The law and statistics say otherwise.</p>
<p>Samantha Ponder… Liberty grad… Sideline reporter for ESPN… Apparently ESPN (an ABC affiliate) didn’t have a problem with her degree. Now if you wanted to be a brain surgeon it could impact your prospects.</p>
<p>BoGentry:
Sorry, but the law, does <em>not</em> say otherwise.
I’m allowed to evaluate the quality of a candidate’s education based on the school they attended. There are lots of data points to this, for example if a school was particularly difficult to get into, I can use that as a point in favor of the candidate vs. a school that’s non-competitive, etc.</p>
<p>I can look at the curriculum and faculty of a school as well to determine the ‘value’ of a degree from a given institution. In the case of Liberty, I can decide that their dismissal of science makes a degree from them worthless, and it’s my right to do so.</p>
<p>P.S. Samantha Ponder does nothing to support your case. Like most front-of-the camera people on TV, she’s hired because she’s easy on the eyes and knows the subject matter (sports in this case). If she had no degree I suspect she would have been hired just as quickly.</p>
<p>I doubt these have any impact on preparation to be an accountant or work in the legal fields. These are matters of faith that you can take or leave. As to you actual knowledge of LU classes-weak at best. Do you have actual knowledge of anything you claim to know?</p>
<p>Okay so what about every other small Christian college out there? I have a friend that went to a small bible college around here and is making 70k in year 3 working for Prudential Financial as an advisor… Like I said… It’s your opinion. There are plenty of Christian Conservatives that do hiring. If I were hiring I would be of the opinion that the guy/girl who went to the Christian school could potentially have a higher level of ethics and moral code then X college graduate. Personality, ability to sell yourself are all things that can easily trump over the other stuff.</p>
<p>Getting back on topic, OP what are your thoughts about real estate now that you have 14 pages of responses? I hope, if nothing else, you have learned that real estate agents who actually pull in big money (and yes, they are out there) work their tails off. And understand math, contracts, basic tenets of real estate law, finance, and need to be quite articulate and well spoken if they are going to be hired by people who can make them money.</p>
<p>Most aren’t like Liberty, people respect Boston College, Notre Dame, Georgetown, Holy Cross, SMU, TCU etc but that doesn’t mean they respect Liberty.</p>
<p>Here is just a short list of colleges with the same Southern Baptist Convention affiliation… </p>
<p>I’m sure none of their graduates are successful… Lol.</p>
<p>A
Anderson University (South Carolina)
B
Baptist College of Florida
Baylor University
Belmont University
Blue Mountain College
Bluefield College
Boyce College
C
California Baptist University
Campbell University
Campbell University School of Osteopathic Medicine
Campbellsville University
Carson–Newman University
Cedarville University
Charleston Southern University
Clear Creek Baptist Bible College
Criswell College
University of the Cumberlands
E
East Texas Baptist University
F
Fork Union Military Academy
G
Gardner–Webb University
G cont.
Georgetown College (Kentucky)
Golden Gate Baptist Theological Seminary
H
Hannibal–LaGrange University
Hardin–Simmons University
Hargrave Military Academy
Houston Baptist University
Howard Payne University
J
Jacksonville College
Judson College (Alabama)
L
Liberty University
Louisiana College
M
University of Mary Hardin–Baylor
Mercer University
Meredith College
Mid-Continent University
Midwestern Baptist Theological Seminary
Mississippi College
Mississippi College Choctaws
Missouri Baptist University
University of Mobile
N
New Orleans Baptist Theological Seminary
North Greenville University
O
Oklahoma Baptist University
Ouachita Baptist University
S
San Diego Christian College
San Marcos Baptist Academy
Shorter University
Southeastern Baptist College
Southeastern Baptist Theological Seminary
Southern Baptist Theological Seminary
Southern Baptist-related schools, colleges and universities
Southwest Baptist University
Southwestern Baptist Theological Seminary
U
Union University
V
Virginia Intermont College
W
Wayland Baptist University
William Carey University
Williams Baptist College</p>
<p>Not everybody goes to a big name flagship school. I’m sure any of these stack up well against “Slippery Rock” or “Lock Haven” (I’m in PA) Just as an example.</p>
<p>Well I’m tempted to go into real estate… But I feel that going to George Washington University for PoliSci / Political Communication and graduating in 2 years is too great an opportunity to pass up. I can always come back to Real Estate… The chance to go to a top school like GWU won’t always be there.</p>
<p>You can always take your real estate courses online or in the summer and follow up with the exam in the same summer. Then work Real Estate at an office part time while in school to get experience. Nothing is stopping you.</p>
<p>It is strange that you laud “Christian” colleges yet are most interested in making big money. There is a lot of diversity in character in the list of schools. Whole other topic. Sounds like you have a lot of maturing to do- good luck in your journey. An exposure to the wider world of a larger on campus experience would benefit you.</p>
<p>BoGent, Your original question brings up a good point. I don’t think many residential RE agents earned college degrees, at least in my town. I also don’t think that many of them are particularly “wealthy” either. Nor do any of them impress me as “savy” or “smart”. The “real” RE $$$ come from commercial development, investing in properties, and leveraging others peoples’ money (investment LLCs). Most of those folks have law degrees and/or MBAs. </p>
<p>I would have to say that you can probably learn the nuts bolts of RE with out attending college. If after a few years in business, you still enjoy RE, then go to business school and take the next steps to ramp up your career. </p>
<p>As far as “reputation” of one school v. another school…well…IMO that’s just BS marketing, emperor’s new cloths spin. Choose a school that you like, feel comfortable at. Trust your instintics. Only you know what’s best for you. Avoid debt if possible and good luck.</p>
<p>Most of the many commercial agents/brokers I know have a BBA in Finance w/concentration in real estate or something similar. I do know some that have MBAs. You can make a lot of money just working as a broker if you are very good at it. To make a whole hell of a lot of money, you usually have to delve into investment and development. Emphasis that all of the statements above describe things as I perceive them *where I live. *</p>
<p>The advice to forgo college and get an MBA after working in RE only works if the OP can find a reputable business school which will admit him without an undergraduate degree.</p>
<p>To make a whole hell of a lot of money, you usually have to delve into investment and development.
I would add to make or LOSE a lot of money. Virtually every major developer I have known over the years lost it all or close to it at least once which might include their house, etc. That includes most big names in the business. Development and investing on a large scale are very risky and not many that know that have the stomach for it. That includes most successful commercial brokers who typically make well into six figures or more with no real risk. Comes down to how risk averse are you and how much is enough. </p>
<p>Nearly all commercial brokers at major firms do have degrees. Many in the big-time RE finance or investment areas have MBAs or the like. Few ever go into development.</p>
<p>The sad story of one local guy I knew. He always was operating at the edges but built a large paper fortune. I was very happy when the news broke. Only guy that ever sued me in 30 years. He lost.</p>
<p>@ blossom, Your correct. I should be more clear. How 'bout this, “Postpone enrolling in undergrad program. Work for a few years. Then enroll in as a business major at a college with strong career focused programs.” College is very expensive. I don’t fault anyone who wants to postpone with the goal of “test driving” a particular career first. </p>
<p>Standing alone, a degree from a prestigious university is only a piece of paper. In reality, education only “pays off” if the end user can successfully leverage said “education” into a profitable career. I really think that there is way too much hype over reputation of the school. After your first year on the job, your boss will no longer be impressed by your pedigree. Your actual performance becomes critical.</p>